Date: Monday, 13 November 2023
Germany Now Sides With Jewish Nazis
Israel proceeds with its ethnic cleansing to get rid of the inmates — Palestinians who were born, living, and now dying, en-masse, in the world’s largest open-air prison, Gaza, where millions have been held, locked-in by Israel for decades unable to leave — but who now are being bombed to death by Israel, and even their hospitals are being bombed by Israel so as to prevent their surviving. Israel wants the land, but not the people they’ve been penning up in it for decades.
A recent interview with Chris Hedges, one of the greatest war-reporters, is titled “Chris Hedges: Israel's endgame in Palestine is genocide”, at The Real News Network, and it has these passages:
I want to put that bombing campaign in perspective. I
was in Sarajevo during the war. We were being hit with three to 400 shells a day, four to five dead
a day, two dozen wounded a day, and I don't want to minimize that. I, almost 30 years later, still
have nightmares because of it. But that's nothing compared to what's happening in Gaza. I mean,
the first two weeks, they damaged or destroyed 45% of the housing stock. They've dropped, I think,
it was just in the first two weeks, 20,000 tons of bombs. I mean, this is a Stalingrad level. It's
as bad as Sarajevo was. [But] That doesn't come close. Thousands of Palestinians are trapped under
the rubble and they have surrounded the northern part. I mean, they will do it
piecemeal. They learn that from the Americans, in Fallujah. You don't essentially attack on a
wide front. You break up your urban areas into sectors that you then dominate. So,
they've cut off Gaza City from the South, which is Gaza's largest city, about 700,000 people.
And they're about to go in. Well, they'll go in. I mean, the problem with
urban warfare, which I've been in, is that all of your heavy machinery doesn't really give you much
of an advantage. So, I think that it's saturation bombing. I mean, they will keep the northern part
of Gaza corded off, surrounded, but I expect them to kind of bomb their way to victory,
or what they're going to continue or call victory. Call victory, right.
They don't really want to start crawling through the rubble fighting Hamas fighters. The tunnels
are an issue. We don't know how big, but they're big. But they need generators in order to pump
down air into the tunnels. Right.
I think most of the hostages are probably in the tunnels. This is also a very cynical decision on
the part of the Netanyahu government. I don't think many of those hostages are going to come
back. I think they know that and they don't care. So, they've cut off food. In essence,
they've cut off water. I mean, the trucks that have come over through Rafan are,
it's negligible. It's a very cynical kind of public relations ploy, but it doesn't do
anything to alleviate the tremendous suffering. So, I expect that they will push what remains
of the Gaza population over the border into the Sinai, into Egypt, and they will never come back.
And there have been reports in the Egyptian press that the Americans have approached the
Sisi government. The Egyptian economy is in a mess at over $160 billion in debt.
And they will offer financial incentives, and probably if that doesn't work though,
use threats and to do Israel's bidding. And in essence, Gaza as we know it, and I spent
seven years covering Gaza, my office was right in the center of Gaza City, just won't exist.
INTERVIEWER: So, two questions here that popped in my head as you were speaking. I mean, I'm talking to some
people yesterday about Uganda and Entebbe in the airport, and rescuing the
hostages that took place. Talk a bit about, since from your experience covering wars and
what's happening right now in Gaza, why couldn't Israel have done that? Why couldn't Israel simply
have gone in, found out where the hostages are and rescued as many as possible? What do you think?
Was that possible or was that impossible? HEDGES: No, because first of all, the hostages are
dispersed over a wide area. And second of all, they're underground. You knew
they were on the plane in Entebbe, they were in an enclosed-
Right. ... space. This is completely different.
INTERVIEWER: So, I'm thinking about the American end in this, and I know it's not going to happen,
but it seems like the only way conceivably to stop Israel from doing what it's doing at this
moment would be the threat of a cutoff of aid. And when you see inside the Jewish world in America,
in the United States, I see it all the time, is a growing body of Jews saying, 'No, not in our
name. We don't agree," And whether it's marches or articles and organizations being developed. So,
I mean, that seems to me the only way to stop the madness from [inaudible 00:07:02].
HEDGES: Well, that would be the only way, even that might not work because Israel needs that aid
to essentially replenish stockpiles. But they have a pretty robust arsenal. Well, those are
the Jews that don't count. I mean, J Street and Jewish voices for peace don't count. I mean,
for me, they count quite a bit. But I'm talking about in terms of the power structure, and it's
money. I mean, it's AIPAC and these Sheldon Adelson type retrograde Jewish billionaires. By the way,
they funded Netanyahu. I covered that campaign. Netanyahu was their baby. They created him and
they bankrolled him against Rabin. So, yes, I mean, I think ultimately
that's why I support the Boycott, Divestment, Sanction movement, that it is about severing
aid and imposing sanctions on Israel. That's the only weapon we have. We're very far from
achieving that. Even most of the liberal groups don't support BDS. And the Israel lobby is just
so well-funded and so powerful, and they represent a political strain of a very right wing political
strain within the American population that it does not, I would guess, represent the political
leanings of probably most American Jews. INTERVIEWER: When I see what's going on in Gaza,
in Israel right now, in Palestine, I mean, I know that Israel is not attempting, they're going to
seize a huge portion of Gaza. They're going to call it a buffer, they're going to do whatever,
they may put settlers in, they may not, but they're going to seize a huge portion of Gaza,
pushing Palestinians out. But this seems to me, having been through, covered this my entire life
almost, when I want to say young Zionist to a place where I became a non against that,
but this seems really different. This moment seems really different in terms of what could
happen post-war and how it could affect... HEDGES: Well, it's not different. It's just different
in scale. The Nakba, or the catastrophe, were, right, 750,000 Palestinians ethnically
cleansed from their homes, pushed into places like Gaza and refugee camps,
the 50 massacres that the Haganah or the Jewish militias carried out. So, that's been part of the
Zionist project since the founding of the state of Israel. And in the '67 war, they pushed out
another 350,000 people. So, it's a difference in scale, it's not a difference in intent.
I think the difference is that we have: This government is the most extremist that Israel
has ever had. Many of these people are heirs to Meir Kahane, who I knew and covered, this rabidly
racist right wing Brooklyn Rabbi who founded [inaudible 00:10:11] party, which was outlawed
in '94 by Israel and declared a terrorist group by Israel and the United States, which it was,
kind of. There's always been a strain of fascism within, going back to Jabotinsky, that kind of
pioneer of Zionism. Benito Mussolini called him- The Herut party.
Yeah, Herut. They called him, I think Mussolini, and Netanyahu's father worked for Jabotinsky,
called him a good fascist or something like that. So, it's always been there, but now
it's predominant. And for them, it's the final solution, or their version of the final solution,
which is, and they won't stop. And once they finish with Gaza, they will turn on the West
Bank. And they want to create, these are their own words, a kind of religiously pure state,
which means the forced exile, ethnic cleansing, whatever you want to call it,
of millions of Palestinians, including Christians. I mean, there's a significant Christian population
among the Palestinians. They think they're going to finish with this problem once and for all.
INTERVIEWER: So, having covered it so intensely, having been in other war zones,
I've been wrestling with what could come out of this. What could be, not Israel's end game.
Israel's end game is to push the Palestinians out, take over the land. What could actually...
HEDGES: Well, Israel will become a fascistic state ruled by the ultra orthodox,
kind of Jewish version of Iran. INTERVIEWER: Which we use as a digression —
which we, growing up as Zionists between Israel and Baltimore, would mock as frummies,
as people who were on the fringe, who were somewhere else. They were these... And not
close to power, not completely shifting. HEDGES: That used to be true, but not anymore.
Yes. Right, right. So, yeah, I mean,
that's what... HEDGES: Israel’s already moved pretty far in that direction. Netanyahu's dismantling of the
judiciary is, of course, a huge step in that. But people who speak out against the Netanyahu assault
against democracy or the slaughter in Gaza are attacked as traitors and silenced. And I mean,
there's been a huge campaign preceding October 7th against Israeli human rights workers at B'Tselem.
Right. And that will just now
accelerate. There'll be no room for dissent. INTERVIEWER: I feel that, and watch it coming. I mean,
I spent part of the last 50 years being called many times by certain folks inside my community
as a [inaudible 00:18:49], just saying no to the occupation and what's going on. I mean,
that tendency is now in control. And then, with the Palestinians, every time I talk to
Palestinian friends now about the family, what's going on, I have family who lived on Kissufim and
[inaudible 00:19:06], and some of them may be hostages. We don't know. I don't know.
I have friends in Palestine whose kids have been killed. People have been killed in this. And so,
it's sometimes, though I'm covering it, it gets really hard because it
gets really deeply personal to watch this go on. And what's happening in the Palestinian world,
I think people don't really grasp the intensity, the madness, the murder that's taking place among
Palestinians now. Except when I heard the piece that Max Alvarez, Editor in Chief here did with
Issa in Gaza, it was heart rendering. People just, I don't think people really get how deep this is.
HEDGES: Well, Israel's cut off all the internet and cell phone service because when you carry out genocide,
you block the ability of the victims to reach the outside world. That's standard.
INTERVIEWER: Talk about that for a minute. Just explore what people listening to us, why you call
it genocide? That's a huge term to use. HEDGES: Well, sure, because it's about the wholesale
destruction of people, and all of the mechanisms by which you can destroy a people. The denial of
food, the denial of water, the denial of safety, the ability to flee, fleeing to the south. They're
bombing the south. They're bombing the supposedly corridors that they set up to go to the south.
It's indiscriminate, dropping 2,000 pound bombs on Jabalia, on refugee camps. Jabalia, I've been in,
spent a lot of time in Jabalia. So, Gaza is one of the most densely packed spots on the planet,
but Jabalia is the most densely packed spot in Gaza, and I think they bombed it three times.
Nobody knows the number of dead because- They're under the rubble.
... thousands are under the rubble. So, that indiscriminate,
they're bombing hospitals. I mean, they say, "Well, they're terrorist command centers,
or Hamas command centers." They're bombing hospitals, they've cut off the fuel. The babies
in incubators are dying. I mean, that's genocide. INTERVIEWER: We talked about what the end game would be. And
you've covered this so long and so intensely. I may have lived it intensely on some levels,
but you've covered it intensely. You've been in the middle of it. How do you see it playing out
over the next few years? What do you see happening between the US and Israel? It's
also affecting the West. It's affecting here. It could affect this election coming up between...
HEDGES: Well, the wild card is whether it ignites a regional conflagration. So, that would begin
in Lebanon with Hezbollah, but it wouldn't begin unless Iran green-lighted it. I don't think that
Iran or Hezbollah wants to ignite a regional conflagration, but that's the wild card. I mean,
things can just go wrong. I've covered enough war that once you open that Pandora's box and
let all those evil spirits out, they control you. It doesn't control... You don't control it.
So yeah, things could go wrong that way. The arms manufacturers are thrilled. They're
making money in Ukraine, they're making money with Israel, because remember, most of this
money is going straight to Raytheon and Northrop Grumman, and that's who's making the money. So,
I don't... The Palestinians have always been friendless, powerless. And the Arab states are
very duplicitous about their commitment, which is largely rhetorical, and they're quite happy
to sell the Palestinian's out, And, there’s a lot of animus towards [Hamas], I mean, for instance, Egypt hates
Hamas because Hamas was born out of the Muslim Brotherhood, and they, Sisi with U.S. and Israeli
backing, seized power to essentially prevent a Muslim brotherhood government from running Egypt.
So, the Palestinians really don't have many friends. Iran, Qatar, Hezbollah,
Syria to a certain extent, but not... Am I, if I had to make an educated guess, I think Israel's
going to get away with it. INTERVIEWER: Get away with it?
HEDGES: Get away with this massive campaign of... INTERVIEWER: Before we close because we're about to close,
what do you mean by get away with it? HEDGES: What are they going to get away with, do you think?
Pushing most of the Palestinians out of Gaza and turning most of Gaza into a moonscape,
which is they've already done with the North. They've already done.
Yeah. So, and I know that's what they want to do. I mean, that is without question. The question
is whether they can be stopped, but I don't see the forces that are going to stop them.
INTERVIEWER: I think it's a danger for the entire planet that we're watching unfold at this moment
inside of Israel, Palestine, and the Middle East. HEDGES: Well, it's just so... I don't sleep. I mean, it's
just so, the horror of it. And I mean, how many children are dead? Three, 4,000 kids? I mean...
At least. It's just,
everybody hooked up to a dialysis machine or in an ICU or in an incubator, they're all dying. I mean,
everybody's going to die. They're running out of food, they don't have clean water. And the
intensity of the bombing campaign is unlike anything we've seen in the 21st century.
That’s Hedges. However, in the land of the original, Christian, Nazis, Germany, there is the opposite of sympathy for the Gazans: strong support for the Jewish nazis (much as they had strongly supported their own, original, nazism and its Nazi Party — but which was aiming to exterminate Jews, instead of any Palestinians):
12 November 2023 22:51
Germany cannot accept any more anti-Semitic refugees, the leader of [the] Christian Democratic Union [Party] said earlier
Germany should introduce “clear” measures to combat anti-Semitism, Friedrich Merz, the leader of the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) – the biggest opposition party – said on Sunday. The politician, who also acts as the leader of the opposition and heads his party’s faction in the Bundestag, called on all anti-Israeli activities in Germany to be “put to an end.”
“Talking no longer helps,” Merz said in a series of posts on X (formerly known as Twitter) as he called for “unequivocal decisions” to be taken to tackle the issue. The list of measures suggested by the parliamentary opposition head includes linking the ability to get German citizenship to a commitment to respect Israel’s sovereignty.
“Naturalization in Germany must be tied to a clear commitment to the freedom of religion and beliefs as well as to the state of Israel’s right to exist,” he said. The CDU head also said that every school child should be obliged to visit a concentration camp museum before graduation and no one should be able to skip such events.
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