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February, 28 2002 11:20:06 PM
Border Patrol
...cont...Incidentally, you might have read today the news that EU is granting some half a billion dollars to Abyssinia.If the cyber Party wants us to believe that the denial of aid to Eritrea was prompted solely by EU's fleeting touches of love for Eritrean people, then why would it grant Weyane such unprecedented flow of cash when it is obvious to Abyssinians themselves and to the rest of the world that Abyssinia has gone down as the cauldron of political and financial corruption, wrought mainly by the same regime they are passing the money to? Is the cyber Party intimating that Eritreans follow Abyssinian political culture, as their model of governance, in order for Eritrea to be flush with EU cash? Well, what else is the Detached Party saying at all?
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February, 28 2002 11:17:06 PM
Border Patrol
Deki Ere!....The cyber Party, feeling the widespread and blistering criticisms for the active role it is playing to block developmental aid to Eritrea, attempts to cover up its own sinister ploy with the following statement: "...it is shameful for the government to try to blame opposition groups for the results of its own folly and arrogance....The government's crackdown on dissent from various sectors of Eritrean soceity, including the arrest, without due process, of senior members of its adminstration who accused the President of illegal action, has alienated many donor nations." To realize that this clever excuse has no legs to stand on, one only needs to read the expository article 'European Parliament Resolution on Eritrea' by H.H.Gaber posted in Biddho.com.
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February, 28 2002 07:26:12 PM
Anti-Regionalism/Awraj the new hypocrisy of the closet Ethios...
Hey people do you hear all these cries lately against regionalism by some closet Ethios who try to act like 100% Eritreans. Now they are crying against regionalism when if you look back they were the first to shout agame/ugum/uggo/adgi and the funny thing is they are all 1/2 ethio/eris themselves. Now when Eritreans begin to search everyones origin and history they begin to fight against it so that there closet secrets are not exposed. Awraj my --- no Eritrean cares where his fellow Eritrean is from as long as he is a 100% Eritrean and not one of these closet ethio/tigrai/amhari types!!! Now these closet ethios are worried because they are being exposed! You guys added fuel to the fire now you will feel the burn from real 100% Eritreans abroad, including your closet ethio king Afworqe... oh what a tangled web you weaved for yourselves like your heart (lebe tewiwai). Now you want to educate Eritreans on regionalism, what absurdity we are seeing thru your bs, now we are the problem when you created it???
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February, 28 2002 06:59:11 PM
DE-AWRAJIZER
Corr:.............HUMILIATION, or an act DESIGNED by PIA to HUMILIATE him.
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February, 28 2002 06:55:55 PM
DE-AWRAJIZER
DEQI-ERE do you know the COWARD MESFIN HAGOS considered his former position as ADMINSTRATOR of DEBU region as being DEMOTED? How can a person in charge of one of our most populous regions considers his position as HUMILIATION, or an act DESIGNED by the president of the STATE of ERITREA his excellency ISSAIAS AFEWORKI ABRAHAM? If you do not believe what I am saying please visit Eritrea1.org to find out the truth for yourself. The fact of the matter is that the COWARD Mesfin HAGOS looked down at MEN-DEFERA, a city which our ancesters haven't named MEN-DEFERA in vain, there must have been areason behind the naming. Alas, MEN-DEFERA has been DESECRATED and looked at with CONTEMPT by people like the COWARD Mesfin HAGOS. The COWARD Mesfin HAGOS has always thought that his place should have been in ASMARA. The semi-literate and baffoon believes that he could make a good president for ERITREA, that will mean Eritrea going a century backward and not an inch forward.
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February, 28 2002 06:32:04 PM
DE-AWRAJIZER
The qletuni tradition is one of the ways which shows how the people of Kebessa are related with each other. I sometimes hear a not strange strange stories like a people from certain awraja in Kebessa going to certain villages in other awrajas in Kebessa for qletuna, the reason behind that is many villages in Kebessa have other sister-villages in other places in Kebessa, sometimes in corners of Kebessa one least expects
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February, 28 2002 06:19:00 PM
DE-AWRAJIZER
It is important to deal with the issue of WEGENINET and AWRAJAWINET because if it runs out of hand we may have a backlash reaction from those ERITREANS who have become a minority in their own capital. If DRU'E and his CO. think the speak for their AWRAJA, we might have people telling DRU'E and CO to leave them alone in their ancestral land and capital. It would not be acceptable to occupy a capital of other people , buy property, outnumber its natives and then to plot against them with the WOYANES, would it? Think about this. No where in Eritrea other than the capital are the natives outnumbered by those who came from the outside, thanks to the Italians and succesive foreign dominations. Wedi-meriet is also being insulted. Do not misunderstand me, DRU'E knows several of my family members and Dr Rissom Haile is a possible blood family through one of my family trees which leads to one of the villages he comes from. As the wise HAILE BOKHRU said it, Eritrea is one big family. Stop DruE-ism
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February, 28 2002 01:42:01 PM
Mike
Zerihun, I mean "Zerom", I gave you the answer. I guess you Weyanes have not learned to read between the lines. Please go back and read my answer; it is all in there. Read it easy. If you understand it fine, if not you are hopeless and there is not need for me to try to make you understand. In fact I went the extra mile to make you understand. I even brought the Somalis and Borenas into picture hoping it will make it clearer. If you are asking if I am the highland Eritreans are from Tigrai; the answer is emphatic no.
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February, 28 2002 01:14:17 PM
Mike
Who is Aman Andom ?
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February, 28 2002 12:36:40 PM
Zerihun
I told you mike, how you secured a PhD while naturally stupid needs an explanation. You can make a fortune sharing the secret with many a fellow stupid. You may want to take your dimwitted gibberish to Badaho.dumb as well. You don’t even understand straight questions, do you? Now, may I take your gibberish for a “no, I was never an abyssinian”?
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February, 28 2002 12:04:35 PM
Mike
[A] Zerihun, to free you from the shadows of the Amhara, allow me to call you "Zerom" or "Zerai". Here I am telling you the history of the "Abyssinia" is a false and sham history and you tell me "history" is not my forte. I am not a historian, but I sure do know the sham history as presented by the Amhara/Tigrai to reject it. Mike an "Abyssinian", you mean part of "Ethiopia"? Never ever Mike and the rest of Eritrea been part of "Ethiopia". Was there cultural linkage between some Eritreans highlanders and Tigrai? Yet bet there was and there will be in the future through many facet of life; be it marriage, trade, and immigation. After all we are neighbors. So was between the Ogaden Somalis and Somalis of Somalia and so was between Oromo & Borona of Kenya with those of Ethiopia. However, that does not make the Somalis and Kenyans to be Ethiopia. Another wrong notion the Amhara/Tigrai have about Eritrea and Eritreans is they think the Eritrean highlanders are the only people of Eritrea.
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February, 28 2002 12:03:20 PM
Mike
[B] In case you do not know, there are eight (8) more nationals in Eritrea with rich history and culture. God, I wish I could show you the mesmerizing culture of the Saho, Hidarb, Kunama and Rashiada. I could tell you about the beautiful cultures of Eritrea. However, I do not think you will appreciate it. To appreciate it, you have to see and feel it and try to be part of it. Then you will know what we mean by "Eritrea". All these nine Eritrean national, who have an equal right to claim "Eritrea", have their culture and history we call "Eritrean". Therefore, when we talk about Eritreans, we mean all Eritreans including those Highlanders who may and may not have historical ties to Tigrai. One thing Zerihun should and the rest of the Abyssinians (Amhara/Tigrai) should accept it the modern day "Ethiopia" is not a continuation of Axum. Axum came and died long before "Ethiopia" was shaped by Menelik.
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February, 28 2002 08:58:57 AM
teddy
people need to listen to Dr. Mesay Kebede, he is the only man I know so far who is courageous enough to swim against the wave. the Dr. is telling us (Ethiopians) loud and clear that Ethiopia has two choices to make 1) being landlocked but at peace 2) being land locked and at war. he is telling us the cost of a war for asab will only results in wrecking Ethiopia and it will not be to bring back asab but just for the sake of justice. it is easy to pick a popular cause such as asab and dance with the flow or even use it to make up with old rivalry, which is what our tigrian brothers in the west are doing, but good Ethiopians should always put the welfare of the country first, some times with a sacrifice like the Dr. on the other hand the war mongers (people who promote/threaten war) contradict themselves when they say the interest (asab) of Ethiopia should be restored by any means (war). this may be a good thinking for one of those developed nations,
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February, 28 2002 08:57:50 AM
teddy
but for Ethiopia this is a flawed thinking, because war should be out of the equation. I don't know about eritrea and frankly I don't give a damn, but I know my country can not carry another long war and not be devastated or even broken up in pieces.
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February, 28 2002 04:31:17 AM
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To All interested : please read "Hafash duro teAzibukum iyu" by Ande Berhan Fesehatsion, at Asmarino.com and/or Biddho.com. I found that article very interesting.
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February, 28 2002 01:30:46 AM
MZ
Dr. T.A. Taddesse --- I always enjoy your remarks. The diagram you provided under the rubric, “Aboyina Medrekna Zelona” is more than an article. Please notice that if the title were “Ethiopia and Eritrea” the metaphor would convey the gamut of its wisdom. I also enjoyed the previous riddle you had posted in Asmarino.com. By the way, the son was Issaias and the mother he slew was Ethiopia.
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February, 28 2002 01:28:29 AM
Hager
Zerihun: as your name is indicating, please try to be HADUSH ZER'E/ABNET to your young generation of Ethiopia. Teach them the right history. You got to listen to Mike. Believe me it will be rewarding. Otherwise, take note that Ethiopia is on the cliff waiting for a little push to the hell. Kulibi is not on her mercy at this time arround. Be relistic. This is just a neighborly adivice.
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February, 27 2002 08:55:06 PM
Zerihun
Mike, we are waiting for your answer. Are you planning to answer it after demarcation? Or are you sending a letter to signor Martello to tell you if you were Abyssinian? What a day!
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February, 27 2002 07:07:00 PM
Zerihun
Mike, education: history, science, logic, research and love of wisdom are not your forte. Simple question…………are you Abyssinian?Were you part of Abyssinia? Simply answer “Yes” or “No” without extra baggages.
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February, 27 2002 06:56:00 PM
Morpheus
Some people compare Abessinians with donkeys. Mike mentioned it. Those people are not ready to learn and are not ready to understand. They would like to take forcibly all countries in South Africa and even they would like to occupy all countries till India. Ethiopia is the only country in the world which doesn´t accept international borders or international rules. What the Ethiopians understand is hungry, aids, asking for handout and war. Yesterday they learned a big lecture from Eritrea. Soon they have to learn from the world community. After Final Verdict we will see which way the prefer to go. If they prefer to force the Verdict, then we have to response even that Ethiopians can understand our will and our readiness, what this is I will tell you after Final Verdict... I don´t expect anything from ethiopians and I don´t like them.
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February, 27 2002 06:21:55 PM
MIke
[A}Deki Ere, look at the damn Abyssinians like Zerihun still living in daydreams. They still talk and act as if the history of Axum is the history of the "Ethiopia" that we know of. These people never learn and they do not have the mental capacity to learn or to change. The world has changed and people have changed and learned from past history and they are beginning to know the truth. But do you think the Abyssinians will learn? No, how could they. They were brought up and they were taught all the false history of Ethiopia. For one hundred years, the Amhara/Tigrai took up to them selves to falsify the history of the Horn; all to promote their domination in Ethiopia. What is so sad about it, even at this point in time (21st Century) the so-called "Abyssinians Intellectuals" are spending all their energy to keep the status quo. It is about time some body should tell them that the histroy of Axum is not the history of the modern day "Ethiopia".
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February, 27 2002 06:20:37 PM
Mike
The modern day "Ethiopia" is not a continuation of the Axum. For instance the modern day "Ethiopia" and Eritrean are a direct result of the "scramble of Africa" and they come into picture at the same time. The current day "Ethiopia" is a collection of the Abyssinians, Kushetic (Arsi Kingdom), and others who traveled parallel through time. Therefore, it about time to accept that the history of Axum is a small part of the rich history and culture of others. To come a talk as if there were no people and there was no history other than that of the Abyssinians and Abyssinians history in the current day Ethiopia is shame and it will not lead to democratic Ethiopia. Time to change the history books of Ethiopia to include the history of the others. Time to start teaching Ethiopian children the true history of "Ethiopia". However, if the Amhara and Tigrai are to continue the game of "Kibre Nigest", am afraid there will not be peace in Ethiopia. Time for Zerihun and his kind to go back to school to learn the re
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February, 27 2002 03:43:13 PM
Harish
Let us wait for time. In 10, 20, 30 years we will see if "Axum" will survive this challenge. The more stable Eritrea becomes the more Ethiopian mythology will be exposed. We know well that our war with our southern neighbour is not only in military but in history and psychology. Time will tell us.
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February, 27 2002 03:30:03 PM
De-Awrajizer
Where will the WEGENAWYAN and AWRAJAWIAN have their government seat whenever their ugly dream becomes a reality? In the capital of the AWRAJA of others? Wouldn't that contradict and defeat their AWRAJAWI pride. The stupid AWRAJAWIAN should be careful not to arise the ire of those in the CENTRE. The ITALIANS stole their land and made something else out of it, and now the AWRAJAWIAN and the WEGENAWYAN should not be tempted to repeat history and usurp what is not theirs. Enough is enough, people have not forgotten the WEGENAWINET of Asfaha Wolde-Michael and Tesfa-Yohannes Berhe inside ASMARA.
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February, 27 2002 03:16:45 PM
Zerihun
“How dare you work against your own country” is Sophia Tesfamariam’s favorite remonstrance about resistance against Isayas. Sophia is one lost dullard who runs with the hare and hunts with the hound. She is such a dimwit that she has no inkling that the same party she fawns on worked against its own country for forty years.Alleging “I’m no Ethiopian” is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be responsible for your own environment. Whatever you conceive yourselves to be you worked against yourself, your abode, your siblings. You worked to promote eurocentric stereotypes as either stringed puppets or as puppets that pull their own strings. This nitwitted attempt to attribute the Kibre Negest to “Syria” is but the tail of the bulldog. The Kibre Negest talks of Makda, Axum, her expedition, Minilik I, Ethiopian clergymen, etc all purely Ethiopian tales. What interest is it to Syria that it had to chronicle Ethiopian tales? When you work as puppets be puppets that make sense.
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February, 27 2002 02:58:51 PM
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Neway, put your ancient history in your ass, and head to tigray !
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February, 27 2002 02:28:00 PM
JUSTICE
NEWAY! Your clinging to the non-existing past glory reveals your inferiority complex.
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February, 27 2002 12:12:46 PM
Neway
Harish> Firstly if u understand history u would know that civilizations don’t came from vacuums….of course you could go anywhere in the world where there is human habitation and do an archaeology dig and you could find a form of human civilizations from thousands of yearsago ..what is the big deal?…. Academic scholars measure a civilization by its time scale, size of influence (regionally and internationally), it’s material wealth (architect…. written language….) Only 10% of Aksum has been excavated yet…there is abundant evidence of a very advanced civilization… on equals with Rome China and Persia. Secondly it the only african empire to have a colony outside of the continent…(yemen was under aksum rule for 3ooyrs…bt 3-6AD)…Aksum was the state that give refugee to Prophet Muhammad’s follwers …. This was no micky mouse empire….my friend that’s the reason why ethiopians are so proud of Aksum….it can never be challenged
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February, 27 2002 12:11:55 PM
Neway
Firstly if u understand history u would know that civilizations don’t came from vacuums….of course you could go anywhere in the world where there is human habitation and do an archaeology dig and you could find a form of human civilizations from thousands of yearsago ..what is the big deal?…. Academic scholars measure a civilization by its time scale, size of influence (regionally and internationally), it’s material wealth (architect…. written language….) Only 10% of Aksum has been excavated yet…there is abundant evidence of a very advanced civilization… on equals with Rome China and Persia. Secondly it the only african empire to have a colony outside of the continent…(yemen was under aksum rule for 3ooyrs…bt 3-6AD)…Aksum was the state that give refugee to Prophet Muhammad’s follwers …. This was no micky mouse empire….my friend that’s the reason why ethiopians are so proud of Aksum….it can never be challenged
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February, 27 2002 11:23:29 AM
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February, 27 2002 11:19:07 AM
Harish
Some challenging points to the "Ethiopian". 1. The kibra nagastat was written originally in Arabic (Egyptian) and was translated later at 14 th Century into Geez. It was thought to keep the strength of the kingdom by this "translated work" . This is a historical fact accepted also by some researchers from the Addis Ababa University. ===> The kibra nagastat is not "Ethiopian". 2. The "Ethiopian" history "begun" with Axum Kingdom. The Etiopians (especially Amharas and Tigreans) claim Axum was the beginning of civilization in that area. But researchers from Eritrea and USA have excavated in the area of Asmara and found historical materials of settlement and civilization dated at least 800 BC and different from Axum Civilization not only in time but in quality, too. The Axum civilization is beeing challenged as the beginnig and the center of civilization in that area.
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February, 27 2002 06:18:49 AM
neway
You have proved how little you know about ethiopian history…..do you know why the eritrea Orthodox church has a tabot in every church….it is because they believe in the great epic Kebre Negest which is an important historical literature explaining how the true ark manage to get to Aksum. The fact Eritrea churchs still have tabots…. Means they accept the history of the tabot residence in ethiopia….So they believe the history kebre negest tells them.
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February, 26 2002 11:29:13 PM
Border Patrol
Furthermore,Deki Ere, while Meles seems to equivocate and is not sure on how to procceed once the Hague rulings are made official-- other than saying that there are no preparations underway, Prez.Isaias on the other hand wants UNMEE forces out of Eritrea within a few months rather than the six-month extension UN is seeking."There will be no conceivable reason for either country to amass or maintain troops along the common border. UNMEE's presence itself will be phased out, probably progressively, in a matter of months after the decision on the Boundary Commission." The ways and manners in which both leaders are officialy carrying themselves since the visit by the Security Council, Meles emerges looking like the one who is still mired in the Hague rulings while Prez. Isaias looks on beyond Hague.
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February, 26 2002 11:25:24 PM
Border Patrol
Assume the visting UN officials have briefed Prez. Isaias and Meles regarding some of the elements in the Hague rulings.If that assumption is correct and judging from the official reactions, Prez.Isaias seems more upbeat than the hapless Meles. Meles' official statements come off as incoherent,vague and often contradictory to the statements that others in his gov't are offering daily.In contrast, Prez. Isaias sounds as someone who has secured a ruling he can live with.Unlike Meles, Prez. Isaias chose to spend a good deal of his press time talking about what he expects the post-Hague scenario to look like: "We think this visit has come at the right moment.The exchange of ideas on how we will proceed after the decision of the Boundary Commission is an important issue. The preparations for dealing with those issues and this initiative of the Security Council is a very positive move in my opinion." cont...Deki Ere!...
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February, 26 2002 07:47:04 PM
Mike
Neway, were are not dealing with the origin of people. We are dealing with the belief and practices of people. We are not talking or attacking the origins of the Amhara or Tigrai as people. When we say Abyssinians, we are talking the practices and rituals of the people. We are talking the practices of the Abyssinians (Amhara/Tigrai) as rulers and how they see other Ethiopians. As for the book of Kibre Negist, the Eritrean Orthodox Church does neither believe nor practice the teachings of Kibre Negist. That is why in Eritrea you will see not only an Orthodox Christian leader but also you will see a Moslem Eritrean leader. In short, the Eritrean Orthodox Church, unlike the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, does not subscribe to the teaching of the Kibre Negist. That is the difference between the Eritrean Orthodox Church and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church at the moment.
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February, 26 2002 07:33:44 PM
Mike
Zerihun, you got that wrong or the Abyssinian is trying to rewrite history. The book of "Kibre Negist" was translated from Syria. The original writers are Syrians, the language is Arabic, and it was intended for Syrian monarchs. Except an Abyssinian king brought a translator and changed the names of the characters to sound Abyssinian to promote Amhara and Tigrai. In any case, the book of Kibre Negist does not guarantee the equality of Oromo, Afar, Sidama, Beshangul; you name it. Unless he is a Christian and Abyssinians (Amhara/Tigrai), he can not rule Ethiopia according to the book. Can you expect an Oromo leading Ethiopia if the Ethiopian Orthodox still teaching the book "Kibre Nigest"?
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February, 26 2002 07:18:47 PM
Neway
Mike> But again that is the confusion….you stand insulting other people with realising that it applies to as well.
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February, 26 2002 07:18:00 PM
Neway
Mike> You still have not managed to answer what the difference in terms of habasha and Abyssinia is......The answers you give seem more contradictive as time goes on...I noticed a favourite subject of yours is verbally bashing the Habasha/Abyssinia history of Kebre Negest…but my friend do you know that Kebre Negest is an important part of the Orthodox church… do u realise that half of Eritreans population when they honour the tabot in the church and monasteries throughout the highlands…when they chant in geez….they acknowledging the history of the kebre negest…the tabot.. something their ancestries have done from way back. So each time you poke fun or disrespect the Kebre Negest….you are doing the same for the orthodox eritreans….
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February, 26 2002 07:14:46 PM
MIke
[A] Ethiopian, for starters do not claim heroes do not belong to you. Abraha Deboch, Moges Asgedom, Zeray Deres; are Eritrean sons who gave hell to the White master right in his turf. Abraha Debauch and Moges Asgedom are Eritrean gallants who raised hell in your hometown (Addis Ababa) while your "Rases" and "Dejazmaches" were paid 30,000 to 50,000 Lires a year by Mussolini for their loyalty to the Fascist. Zeray Deres, is a gallant Eritrean, who chopped the neck of the white master in Roma; while your "Rases" and "Dejamaches" were kissing the shoes of the white master. If there is any body to claim these Eritrean heroes and be proud of them; it us Eritreans. This Eritrean did this feat inside Ethiopia not because they believe in Ethiopianness nor did they claim to be Ethiopians. They did it for the closest country available at that time that could give them refuge in their struggle against Italy was Ethiopia. Consequently, they went to Ethiopia and did what they did to the white master.
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February, 26 2002 07:13:38 PM
Mike
[B] am not trying to rewrite the history of these and others but I am giving first hand account of the struggle of these Eritreans. The uncle of this writer is one of those many gallants who refused to kneel down to Italy but chose to struggle in every which way he can with fellow Eritreans. The struggle of Eritreans against any form of foreign domination started way back the in early 1920s and 1930. Abraha Dobech, Moges Asgedom and Zerai Deres are part and parcel of that early Eritrean struggle. Ethiopian, frankly we have to yet to see an Amhara hero. Then again, you do not need a hero; if you claim other as yours. As for the book of "Kibre Negst", I do understand as to why you are not comfortable. Sorry for telling the world your "how to" book or manual of subjugating Ethiopian. Ethiopian, if you are looking for democratic Ethiopia, the first order of business is to burn the book of Kibere Negist. If this is done there will be peace in Ethiopia and the will be peace in the Horn.
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February, 26 2002 06:50:15 PM
Zerihun
If you repeat a word or a sentence over and over again for years you are likely to become a dullard first then afflicted with a serious mental disorder second. You will become what you read. That’s exactly why I stopped reading Mike’s batty lamentations long ago. You gotta be discriminating whose to read. You’ve got to if you want a healthy thinking faculty. I noticed Mike’s innuendo regarding the Kibre Negest when I read “Ethiopia’s” messages. The comprehensive epic that is the Kibre Negest demonstrates the distinctive intelligence the Ethiopians posses and is a precursor that Ethiopians are likely to outstrip all in many matters of life. The Kibre Negest is probably the first constitution on earth. The Germans got it translated 100 years ago. Every one else copied from Ethiopia. We don’t claim the Kibre Negest can’t be amended. It should.
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February, 26 2002 05:42:21 PM
Ethiopia
You are lucky Mike, thanks to Abrham DeboCH,Moges Askedom,Zeray Deres,Belay Zeleke,Deresu Duke, Hailemariam Mamo, ras Emru, Abdisa Aga, ras Desta Damtew, ras Abebe Aregay e.t.c for there paramount sacrifice you are partly fre.
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February, 26 2002 05:27:22 PM
Ethiopia
- - - - - - Lets count,10 years federation of Tigrign geovernance, 30 years of terror and distractions of bridge by EPLF and 10 years of slavery in the hands of "Aste ISU". Where are those 40 years of Amara tyrran you mentioned? Either Mike or I can not count . Help us some body count. The truth are the Tigrign, the Tigre, the Saho, the Jeberti,the Low landers were infact deprived their humanity in 50 years Italian occupation of Bahere-Negash. There were two towns inside Asmera. One dirty corner of the city for the black, the well kept part of Asmera for the occupant. Very few lucky (if one can call it lucky) doughters and sons of Askaris can go school up to fourth grade. There MAM and DAD can cross the line of limit just to wash cloths and prepare food for the occupant White Italian. This is part of Mike´s history which makes him so proud. He can not find it in the book of Kibre-Negest such a kind of history. I am hoping that he will spare books about Ehiopia on his possession from fire. One learns from it
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February, 26 2002 04:27:58 PM
Analyst
Semere, fragmentation must be a fundamental law of nature. The 11 groups that form the Alliance of traitors, for example, are all groups which have splintered from the ELF. Besides the natural tendency of purposeless groups to splinter, we now have the fragmentizing power of the internet which makes it easy for every nitwit to form his/her own group. Since there are dozens of people like Hiruy Tedla who have been, over the past thirty years, fantasizing about coming to power in Eritrea, we will now see every ELF nincompoop forming his group. Add to that the recent additions to the riffraff and it won't be long before they run out of acronyms. How long do you think Mesfin Hagos's party will last? In my opinion, not very long. It is unlikely for the individuals who have splintered from EPLF because of Haile DruE to be happy with Mesfin Hagos's leadership. Those whose politics is defined by regionalist sentiments cannot last long.
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February, 26 2002 04:24:24 PM
Ethiopia
Mike, who is the real clanist? Amara or Tigrign? I used the word Amara here not becouse I am going to go after your clanist foot step but, in many of your posts the name of Amara is often written "ENDE WOT KIMEM" to make your ideas sound true or accepted. But I see it differentl , when your are strifing Amaras for nothing Tangible crimes but it is a kind of worshiping or fear of their heroic contribution in history for detering the slaughter of Ethiopia by white invaders and their naked black Askaris. You have no any sense of hesitation or for that matter intelectual value at all ,when you said "burn the book of Kibre-Negest". ANTE YEMESTEHAF TELAT! I have some doubts about your haterd against Amara as you pretend to be. You know, Hitler was acting as if he was a German. You must be an Ethiopian or an Amara some one who wants to out smart those poor Tigrign. In one of your many posts you made an accusation that Amara has divide you ethnically and deprived your humanity for last 40 years. Lets count,
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February, 26 2002 03:54:08 PM
Semere
What is going on here in diaspora too many organizations i cant help my self i lough.The cyber democrats specially this dr belabelow gadi characheter to talk about war and combat.This clown how many times he was ingaged in combat Zeo bado sifr he have to be ashemed himsel There is a saying in Tigrigna Zibis abzyfeltuwo adi keydu korbet ansfuley bele. Any way they are good entertainers
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February, 26 2002 03:35:42 PM
Mike
Deki Ere, take any Tigrigna word such as "Agelgl" and breaking it into three parts; that is, "A", "gel", and "gl". If you could that and put part in each line ending up with three lines; you wrote a poem and you can call self a poet with caliber of the Dr. Russom Haile. God, could somebody tell this baboon to stop claiming or presenting himself as a poet. Tell y
u what I have a five-year old daughter who know one Tigrigna word, "Sawa". Do not ask me how she picked that historic word, may be from a song; but she does. Would you be surprised how she uses that word. She repeats that word so many times and at times; I feel she is reading a poem Dr. Russom Hiale's style. May I should call my five-year, the "poet" if Russom Haile is calling that a poet. I could not believe to see Dr. Russom Hiale has posted a poem at Asmarino with just these parts of the word "Agelgl" as a poem.
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February, 26 2002 02:09:47 PM
Seghid Bekhit
Selam Eritrawian, Our unity is a key to our success, so we should concentrate on the positive rather than the negative one. The gangs in mekele will never defeat us if we speak with on voice.
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February, 26 2002 12:49:39 PM
Wedi-Regbe,Wedi-Kurbaria Tsada(WRWKT)
Bravo to EPDN's ( Eritreans for Peace and Democracy in the Netherlands[Amsterdam]) recent Press Release.In its recent statement the EPDN unequivocally told those 'mortal enemies' of Eritrea-the Amhara elites and their Tigraian counterparts-. Put another way,these existential enemies of Eritrea are those that the EVER ELOQUENT and the INDOMITABLE EmbaHara described as 'the REVANCHIST Amharas & the IRREDENTIST Tigrayans' who have so far been busy making all the cantankerous calls of war,if the Hague Verdict was not to their satisfaction.As the EPDN statement clearly stated,it behooves Eritreans to remain VIGILANT and face haed-on all the hurdles and challenges these SWORN ENEMIES of Eritrea and Eritreanism are going to throw on their way.Moreover,Eritrea and any Eritrean who is honest enough to put Eritrea and Eritreanism above his/her petty gripes,should remember that all the things that we want to see happen in Eritrea will become a reality only when Eritrea is SECURE and INVIOLATE!!Yeah,inviolate!
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February, 26 2002 12:31:05 PM
Neway
Right> > You have no way addressed the issue…. The questions is if abyssinia is the actual translation of the word Habasha in English…..how comes eritreas when they want to attack Ethiopian state or history they use the term abyssinia oppressors, expansionists… meaning Amhara or Tigray while in the other hand the Eritrea Christain highlanders ….the ruling class of eritrea …..Define themselves as habasha (ie abyssinia)…As I said that is the confusion of Eritrea Habasha…..why not study your own past before you run your mouth about ethiopian/ abyssinia History. In fact why not stop claiming you are Habasha…that way there is no need for the contradiction and confusion.
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February, 26 2002 12:21:13 PM
Zerihun
The Kebesa ignorance knows no bounds. Like the street American Negro who calls his brother a “Nigger,” the ignoramus kebesa community takes pleasure in slinging the word “Abysinia” to Ethiopia. The Abysinian numero uno, in all history, has always been the Kebesa of Eritrea. I guess sometimes the kettle finds redemption by calling the other kettle “black.” When I read Sphia Tesfamariam’s shocking response (for its ignorance) to Embaye Meleken regarding Embay’s email name, I realized, for the first time, that Sophia’s problems come from lack of proper schooling. Know thyself -- go to school.
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February, 26 2002 12:16:57 PM
Mike
Neway, not at all; we are not forgetting the meaning of the term we use when say "Abyssinians". When we say Abyssinians we referring to the Amhara and Tigrai who still believe and see Ethiopia is there for their "stomach". We are talking about these two who do not accept that there are over 48,000,000 other Ethiopians who have the right to live, enjoy life up to including "ruling" Ethiopia. These 48,000,000 non-Abyssinians Ethiopians that are Christians and Moslems and some more. According the book of "Kibre Negist", which is the book the Abyssinians, you have to be an Amhara/Tigrai and a Christian to rule Ethiopia. Those are the Abyssinians we are talking about. Incidentally, is Neway ready to be "ruled" by Oromo and a Moslem Oromo at that? You are not and you are not ready to give that right. Why? The only way you could suck the rest of Ethiopia as a "Neftegna" is for the "Abyssinians stay in power. Those are the Abyssinians.
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February, 26 2002 12:01:19 PM
right
You're wrong Neway. Words lose and gain meaning over time. For example, nigger doesn't mean the same thing it mean in the early 1900s. Abyssinia has gained a new meaning. It you're too old fashioned to realised that then do everyone a favor and die. Take your old fashioned ways with you.
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February, 26 2002 07:31:40 AM
Neway
I have read on many occasions Eritrea’s writing about the Abyssinia Expansions, meaning Amhara and Tigray…. it is easy to forget what the term abyssinia means….The confusion and mindlessness of Eritrea’s society is exposed here…. The term abyssinia is a corrupted European translation of the term Habasha…. So when the europeans coned they term they meant it for all ppl that identify themselves as habasha and where of the tewahod christian culture…so when u illiterate ppl open your mouth and say I am Eritrean habasha remember it actually means Eritrean abyssinia
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February, 26 2002 02:39:26 AM
Border Patrol
read as 'they also bolster.....'
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February, 26 2002 02:30:52 AM
Border Patrol
...cont..case of Beraki and others; they also bolsters those who claimed all along that the National Assembly's resolutions were a matter of conviction, not political expediency.
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February, 26 2002 02:27:51 AM
Border Patrol
...cont...It is hard to fathom an Awate Team that has been restlessly girding its loins to declare war on PFDJ and the National Assembly and that suddenly finds it wise to exercise majestic patience, letting a handsome opportunity like this that could have placed Isaias' integrity under their vise slip away. That Dr Assefaw and Awate Team decided to drive a coach and six through the clarity statute in the National Assembly Resolutions is neither frightening nor shocking. That the National Assembly,however, took the charges as seriously as it did and that it would cede no jurisdiction to Dr Assefaw's 'eureka' letter and the bogus 'investigative' arm of Awate Team is reassuring enough.Those who stand accused of treason and their families could all feel more comfortable if Dr.Assefaw was right-- even more so-- if the Awate Team could furnish a shred of exculpatory evidence.But such feel-good and politically-laced renditions as Dr.Assefaw and Awate Team did offer not only emasculate the public relations ...cont..
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February, 26 2002 02:19:53 AM
Border Patrol
Resolutions.Deki Ere!...The Awate crowd was however a bit bolder and more inventive than Dr Assefaw---"...tell us who the conspirator is and we will get you a confirmation or a denial [from the peace facilitators]." First of all, where in the National Assembly's Resolutions does it name any of the peace facilitators as 'conspirators'?. The Resolution specificaly mentions the peace facilitators as opposed to face-to-face meetings between the 'traitors' and Weyane people.The Awate Team's psuedo-challenge to name 'who the conspirator is' among the peace facilitators smacks of putting up pretenses as if they are mulling to do some 'investigative' job in order to disprove the allegations in the Resolutions. If the Awate Team had believed they could secure a 'denial' of the allegations in the Resoltions from the peace facilitators, they would have done so--- long before the Creator ever contemplated to give us this planet Earth....cont...
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February, 26 2002 02:05:10 AM
Border Patrol
[C]...cont...Dr Assefaw along with the Jihadists know darn well that neither the President nor the National Assembly would be so naive and idiotic as to stake the integrity of their claim against Mr Beraki on an apparently single and harmless letter, without tying it in with more egregious wrongs perpetrated that would subsequently render this letter in hindsight very much relevant to the larger case as currenitly spelled out in the Resolutions.
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February, 26 2002 01:58:38 AM
Border Patrol
[B]...cont... for his supposed 'dictatorial arrogance' and 'moral obtuseness'.All that in a blurred distinction between what belongs to a leader and that which belongs to the country. Anyone who has read the National Assembly's Resolutions could handily dismiss Dr Assefaw's cockeyed and sappy claim that Mr Beraki was arrested on account of his offering of counsel in 1998 which was 'intended' to convince the president about the merits and the 'good politics' in accepting the U.S.-Rwanda peace deal.It is not that we happen to know a lot more on any other shoddy dealings that Mr Beraki engaged, but simply because we have been informed by the National Assembly Resolutions that pointedly referred to treasonous crimes by way of "...transmitting messages to the Weyane leaders..." , not transmitting messages to the president. ...cont...
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February, 26 2002 01:48:27 AM
Border Patrol
Deki Ere!...Well, they are here again,all in lather because the National Asembly passed Resolutions condemning some of the Deformers for "...transmitting a message to the Weyane leaders through the peace facilitators asking them if they would be prepared to stop their offensive in exchange for the President's ouster...". The Resolutions have the Jihadists beating their chests and the Deformers circling their wagons. To appreciate the quandary facing the chest-beating and wagon-circling troupe as it clamors to react to the National Assembly's Resolutions, one need only consider Dr Assefaw's 'smoking letter' article 'Men eyu bedali...Beraki..' and the flurry of articles in Kandahar.com, all penned with an intent hard to tell how much of that the Jihadists and the Deformers truly believed and how much they thought was clever propaganda.What comes across as more glaringly obvious than their professed piety of the search for facts is that they all seem to have a grand time needling President Isaias ...cont
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February, 26 2002 12:36:18 AM
De-AWRAJIZER
Where will the seat of the government of AWRAJAWIAN be? In Asmara? Is that what the WOYANES promissed them? Some kind of give me the border areas and I will give you ASMARA? That would leave empty handed "Asha" Hamasienay defending the border and Asmara, wouldn't it. aye DruE!! Surprised??
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February, 25 2002 10:28:33 PM
Zerihun
The monotone of the Pencil is just crossing the pale. The Awate Pencil produces, in a rather sickening frequency, charges against Issayas alleging that the enormous debasement that enveloped Eritrea was caused by a major decision glitch on the part of the president in 1998. Gadi and Yunus come so simplistic that they mindlessly state Isayas risks the life of Eritrea for the symbolic weight of his word. If Isayas were that foolish, one would wonder how he commanded leadership and respect for more than three decades. Issayas is not the problem. Isayas only sought a way out of the dilemma Eritrea was immersed into by the collective choice of nitwits among whom Gadi and Yunus constitute the road pavers to hell. If Gadi and Yunus still blame it on Isayas it is because they are a furlong behind him. It is the Nakfa rankling, stupid! A decision glitch would end the problem since peace took place two years ago. Issayas’ attempt to solve the problem made the problem conspicuous. Isayas ain’t the problem!
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February, 25 2002 10:08:42 PM
EmbaHara
Corre.... Please,read "in their futile efforts" IPO...in their futile afforts! Thanx!
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February, 25 2002 09:59:30 PM
EmbaHara
I encourage all thoughtful Eritreans to read the recent statement from EPDN-- Eritreans for Peace and Democracy in the Netherlands.The statement,in essence,captures what the sworn enemies of Eritrea are concoting these days.The sworn enemies of Eritrea who are non other than the REVANCHIST Amharas and the IRREDENTIST Tigrayans will leave no stone untunrned in their futile afforts to undo Eritrea's hard won independence.The EPDN statement correctly describes what these anti-Eritrean forces are attemting to accomplish.Eritreans should remain VIGILANT and should never let their guards off against these arch-enemies of Eritrea and its people.Finally,I call on all Eritreans to think broadly and 'nationally' and thus put all their energies in DEFENDING Eritrea and its hard won INDEPENDENCE.I couldn't finish this post without expressing my thanks to those Eritreans in the Neatherlands for their recent statement that also echoed the sentiments of this writer,EmbaHara! Thank you very much,EPDN!!!!!
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February, 25 2002 09:40:02 PM
Zerihun
After reading the gist of the messages conveyed by a Tigrigna article scribe named T. M. Negassi (the “T” stands for the title “Tegadalay,” which means “fighter” or “killer”), I quickly surmised that the guy (T. M. Negassi) is actually HIM. This is non other than the bread provider, the deliverer, the commander, the liberator, the president, the nightmare of Ethiopia and of ELF. Negassi is, honestly, Issayas Afework. Meles, too, occasionally writes articles to Ben’s WebPages. Meles writes good English articles (as a Wingater). Issayas’ Tigrigna must be captivating. I took a good glimpse of Negasi’s mind through Habtom Yohannes’ partial translation. Negassi (kingmaker) is a good penname for Issayas since he is actually a king or an emperor in real life, too. How Negasi perceives the West, in which is embedded a sense of authoritative access to controlling infiltration, is very telling of Negasi’s decision making profile in Eritrean hierarchy, if there is hierarchy. Read Negasi and tell me if I was wrong.
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February, 25 2002 03:57:48 PM
SAM
Mullah Saleh Abdu Ahmad Younis has gone crazy, 'tjanana or Abidu as they say it in OUR BELOVED ERITREA. The man is speaking about PENETRATION , may the SATAN of the JIHADIST who has PENETRATED his soul continue doing so. What should we make of these lewd lines of his, I quote " transformative penetration maintaining its impetus, and to protect the flanks of the penetration...." Ya illahi! Oh my God! This man must have been reading pornographic material lately and using some kind of self-concocted drug. Alcohol is also not excluded. Alcohol creates strange things for a tea-totaler by upbringing! Mullah Younis is really desperate, what he couldn't get from the THIRD Woyane offensive wanted to get it from from the JIHADISTS and WOYANE ALLIANCE and now he is expecting HRUI BARYA'U to do the job for him, ofcourse he wants Barya'u to work with the JIHADISTS and the Woyanes. Mullah doesn't want to realize that ELF-JIHADISTS committed suicidein MEKELE,Addis and GONDAR, and Mesfin and Co are fugitives.
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February, 25 2002 03:50:02 PM
Mike
[A] The "Eritrean Wheel" is rolling; despite the relentless attack, despite the ups and downs, and despite the obstacles of external and internal enemies of the motherland. The road to the Promised Land and the road to confront zone was and still is bitter, costly and bumpy. Nevertheless the "Eritrean Wheel" is still rolling. The external enemy (Weyane) perfectly understands they can not stop the wheel. For all practical purposes, Weyane has given up in their quest to inter "Asmara in four days" in June 12, 2000 after the Ethiopian army was decimated in the Denakil plains and inferno. The situation of Weyane these day can be termed as "TinQili'Et Wedika Aytihazuni".
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February, 25 2002 03:48:52 PM
Mike
[B] How about the internal Eritrean enemies such as "Chifra Esra" with Dr. Bereket and Dr Araya at the helm of the "evil" operation? How about Saleh Gadi, Saleh Yonus and Dawit Mesfin who are at the center stage of promoting Alliance Forces (including Jihad and Harakat) from Mekele and Gondar. These two camps, although they cannot see eye to eye, are relentlessly on the offensive and they are burning the mid night oil to promote their respective agenda. Their anti-people and anti-Eritrean actions are well known to Hafash. There is nothing that has not been done and said by these "evil" against GOE in the last three years. If there is any thing we do not know is which outside force(s) is behind this "B'dihrai SaEri Ay'Yibqoula" huffing and puffing of these "internal enemies"?
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February, 25 2002 03:45:19 PM
Mike
[C] The most dangerous enemies of Eritrea at this hour is not only Weyane but the internal enemies who approach us all in the name of "Eritrea". Be that it may, let us see at the "Eritrean Wheel" which is under relentless attack by the external and internal enemies. Picture the "Eritrean Wheel" as a wheel with a "hub", the "spokes" and the "rim". The "Hub": The Eritrean leadership with the Lion of Nacfa at the center stage. The "Spokes": The Eritrean government civil servants and defense forces. The "Rim": The arrogantly defiant Eritrean people. This wheel is not a wheel unless these three components are individually and collectively intact. The external and the internal enemies knows this perfectly and they are spending sleepless nights, wasting every conceivable resources at they disposal, and using any outside force who will come to their services to destroy one or all of the components. Next time we we look how the attack the wheel.
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February, 25 2002 03:38:45 PM
Analyst
I just read what Jordana has posted in Dehai that the Hibret/Mesfin talk was a family affair of the Iyob family. It is the latest cyber-fad isn't it, to get together with a couple of your relatives, friends or fellow regionalists to form a foundation, team, forum, action committee or even a political party, announce your presence in cyber-space, post your by-laws and get into the business of inviting shabby defectors to explain to your audience the basics of how to become a traitor. If you are desperate, you may turn to the Weyane-paid agents to describe to you what the situation in Eritrea is although you know full well that the worn-out traitors who haven't set sight on Eritrea in the past twenty years, are better fit at narrating the conditions in Gondar. If you are a Hiruy who thinks politics is all a matter of DNA, then you publish the ten-generations of your family tree and patiently wait for nature to unleash a wave of some sort (third?) to catapult you to your ordained place in Eritrea.
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February, 25 2002 03:38:04 PM
Analyst
...If you are the awate foundation, you hallucinate about seeing the traitors flood into Eritrea from Gondar. I enjoy it to see the torment of the awate puppies. One week, they declare that that the era of Isaias is over, only to collapse into depression the next week. It will them take some time to realize the futility of their fantasies. One person who seem to be getting it is Hiruy. After waiting in vain for the floods to come, he has given up and is now proposing to establish a parliament in exile. Anything it seems that will alleviate his excruciating thirst for power. One thing that the riffraff forget is that Eritrea is populated by some 3.5million people who have their own agenda. How pathetic for them to hallucinate that the people of Eritrea would welcome shabby traitors in the service of the Weyanes or decayed defeatists with a political party that is better known to the EU than Eritreans. Very odd that the EU advocates on behalf of a party that Eritreans know nothing about.
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February, 25 2002 02:06:51 PM
SAM
Eritrea under the leadership of President ISSAIAS AFEWORKI ABRAHAM is in good hands. Viva PIA!
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February, 25 2002 06:38:03 AM
Is´nt it enough for HIM
HE is not consistent as a leader, yes HE PIA or DIA what ever you may call him. We always folloed his public speech in TV, radio official or inofficial interviews. He does not care about his people at all, he cares only about himself his honour or so. Look what he said yesterday; yes politically correct , and look his past record with diplomatic blunder. He confuses himself and confuses us. That is why he should leave the chair to someone else. There is always better one to lead us.
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February, 24 2002 11:41:59 PM
GENUINE ERITREAN
MOHAMMED YASIN AHMADO ,NANGALY SIMPLY YOU ARE THE BEST BROTHER ,IN MY BELOVED HOME LAND NO MATER WHAT THERE IS NO ROOM FOR religion defferences.even if there is we will fight it through civilized way .thanks to all martyrs.kulu gizie zelealemawy zikry nisiwaatna,awet nihafash.
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February, 24 2002 11:37:52 PM
MIke
Genuine Eritrean, I care less if this accursed land goes to hell. What I do not and will not accept is they are trying to drag Eritrea to the hell their created for them selves. What is so sad about all these is, there are Eritreans who are at the full service of the accursed land in hurting their own people all in the name of "democracy" and all the lofty words. Besides, if a country is to spend 36,000,000,000 Birr with not return for the investment; they should expect that is where their country will end up. As per some estimates, it will take 30 years for Ethiopia to come to the pre-1991 level of development. Even the 30 years is only possible if the Ethiopians now. However, with Weyane in control, expect it to be delayed by 40 to 50 years from now.
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February, 24 2002 11:22:41 PM
GENUINE ERITREAN
Mike ,Dont say ethiopians are good for nothing; at least they are good for some thing,and that is beg,lie,misslead,brag,and b. s .
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February, 24 2002 04:49:09 PM
Mike
Deki Ere, look at the accursed land Ethiopia. If it not hunger, then it is HIV. If it is not HIV, then it is meningitis (Jero Degif). If it is not meningitis, then it is malaria. If it in not malaria, then it is hunger. A country cursed by vicious cycle of devastation for no apparent reason but here children betrayed here. Ethiopia, the unlucky country is not blessed by children who love their people and country but their "stomach". May God save Ethiopia from here good-for-nothing children!
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February, 24 2002 12:22:44 PM
Wedi-Regbe,Wedi-Kurbaria Tsada(WRWKT)
" As they[UN Security Council Members] travelled through Tigray on Saturday(Feb.23rd,2002) on their way to the border,,,,, the speaker of the Regional Assembly(of Tigray) said that 'We shall not accept any decision that attempts to alter the reality on the ground in the face of clear,solid evidence.Ethiopia is a very tightly controlled country.People say it is unthinkable that the Regional Speaker would have made such a contentious speech without having clearance first,very possibly from the Prime Minster(Meles Zenawi) himself." BBC News, Elizabeth Blunt in Asmara.Check for the report in DEHAI-NEWS. It is amazing to see once more the double talk coming from TPLF's Ethiopia.Well,Eritreans should know and expect that Ethiopia and the thugs of MaLeLiT(MLLT) are not going to accept the upcoming Hague verdict without throwing more hurdles.Meles tells the UNSC members that he will accept the upcoming Hague rulings;through the mouth of the Regional assembly,Meles told the UNSC members the direct opposite!!
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February, 24 2002 02:28:52 AM
JUSTICE
Look at this situation: GADDI mounted Younis, JIHAD mounted both GADDI and YOUNIS, JIHAD, GADDI & YOUNIS in their turn are dreaming to enter ASMARA by mounting on donkies like Hrui BARYA'U , Hamien waTa Rissom HAILE Hambir and MESFIN Jajawi HAGOS. This means the DONKIES are taken as substitues for WOYANE fengiregachs who failed to deliver the promise! Now, one might want to know who is mounting the JIHADIST, who else IBLIS, the fire-dweller!
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February, 24 2002 02:06:59 AM
JUSTICE
I wonder what is bedwarfed HAILE MENKERIOS doing in war-torn Liberia? wey gud ab Adu Hawi k'agud kab rHuQ fuuuuuf kbl Hagyun kerimunsi, ab MONROVIA 'ntay selam kqwaSaSereley 'yu: 'kWa de naHs(kufu' Edl) amSi'ulom, 'nehelka Hji MONROVIA btogtog teKebiba ala:: belu seb LIBERIA gozomo Hizom fin fin yblu slezelewu nMenqoriosna bzey idn 'grn melHasn keyeQruylna nSelti!!
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February, 24 2002 02:01:57 AM
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My reply to DEMOKRAT. You refered Dr.Russom Haile as a good example on yourtext. But let me tell you that Dr.R is the most regionalist I have ever read about. Read his poem "Sigana Habuna, Hamli Aynidelin". Do you think that Hafash is completely dumb ?
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February, 24 2002 01:57:44 AM
Border Patrol
Deki Ere...Did you hear that? Ha, ha,ha..Yohanness is busy! Yeah,the Ethiopian General who had been invited by UNMEE to attend today's 'Bridge ceremony' (Read Dehai news)... Perhaps, the rumors I told you about might after all have some legs and could prove to be true.And perhaps, the 'cry-baby' General's no-show mini-act might also be indicative of the dire helplessness at the ominous clouds looming over Abbay Tigrai?...We are keeping our fingers crossed!
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February, 24 2002 01:57:43 AM
Wedi-Regbe,Wedi-Kurbaria Tsada
,,, Correction: The last Sentence should read: Only Sophia T could concoct(ISO concot) such an oxymoron!!!! Thanx!
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February, 24 2002 01:29:19 AM
Wedi-Regbe,Wedi-Kurbaria Tsada(WRWKT)
" Those who believe in ABSURDITIES will commit ATROCITIES." Said,one of Voltaire oft-quoted dictums! I am not sure that Sophia Robitoson Tesfamariam,will literally commit atrocities.However,the atrocious absurdities that she has been spouting these days has surely inflicted some sort of 'atrocities' on our sensibilities.From the phony baloney assertion that "an hour with PIA is worth a year at any iniversity" to the oxymoronic stetement that "a person need forge a MEANIGFUL relationship with Eritrea and its people." Speaking about the latter part of her nonsensical assertion,one is forced to pose a query,as the EVER ELOQUENT and INDOMITABLE EmbaHara did,if it makes any sense at all for an Eritrean to have a meaningless relationship with Eritrea and Eritreans?? Well,whereas one can argue and make the point that an Eritrean outside Eritrea proper,can forge or form a RELATIONSHIP,it makes no sense whatsoever for that relationship to be either MEANIGFUL or MEANINGLESS.Only Sophia T can concot such an oxymoron!!!!
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February, 24 2002 01:23:52 AM
JUSTICE
BORDER PATROL. Thanks! I don't know whether you have read it or not but there is also a nice article at Agamino written by Dr HADDIS GEBRE-MESKEL. The good doctor had a lot of things to say about ZALA-AMBESSA and its environs.
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February, 24 2002 01:00:18 AM
Border Patrol
..cont...The other odd stuff is that some pro-Weyane newspapers have already coined new names to refer to some of the contested lands--Upper Badme and Lower Badme!. The anti-Meles group suspect that the new name 'Lower Badme' is a hoax ( undisputed Tigrayan land) intended to stroke ruffled Tigrayan feathers in the aftermath of the rulings. As far as I am concerned, the whole thing is speculative.But I just wanted to bring it to your attention.
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February, 24 2002 12:57:51 AM
Border Patrol
Justice! You're cracking me up.But the dude is 'The Pencil' himself. Anyway Deki Ere ,I do occasionally patrol Ethiopian sites.It is all confusion out there, regarding the impending Hague rulings.For what it is worth, it is being rumored Meles has dispatched a battalion of cadres to the towns and villages in eastern Tigray to hold Kebelle conferences with the population in just that sub-region only.The spin among anti-Meles Tigrayans is that Weyane has gotten some unfavorable snipets of the Hague rulings and felt compelled to undertake this half-secretive 'soft-landing' campaign as part of the 'advocay work' mentioned to extend the timeline by one more month....cont....
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February, 24 2002 12:52:28 AM
SAM
Apparently "Mr." Pencil has worked for a while as a plumber!
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February, 24 2002 12:20:19 AM
WRWKT
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February, 23 2002 11:57:29 PM
JUSTICE
DEMOCRAT?? This creature who calles himself Democrat, sounds like Mullah Saleh Younis and Mullah GADDI. Hey, what are the guys doing here leaving their DUKAN unattended? Have they established SHARI'A RULE in their cyber-fantasy-land which gives them confidence that no one will dare steal a mini-traitor or a mini-Jihadist?? ha ha! suker alebu, shay alebu, traitor bu!! NaHnu warakum wa al-zaman Tawil( gzie ynwaH yHSer alena ab r'sieKum!)
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February, 23 2002 11:42:25 PM
Border Patrol
Democrat!... How could one play the regional and religious card while at same time practicing 'Hade libi,Hade hizbi'? There are two players here. One is Team Isaias with the 'Hade' ball.The other is Team Awate with the'region-religion' ball. Right , Mr 'The Pencil'?
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February, 23 2002 09:46:46 PM
MIke
[A] Mohammed Yassin Ahmado.. Amen and "Ensha'lah" brother. You consider building a mosque at Nefasit, at the center of the brave Saho people and Adi Shum is something out of the ordinary? Do not be surprised; you deserve more than that, brother. Like the rest of Eritrea, equally if not more; you paid for it through years of tears and blood. If the Eritrean Moslem is not going to enjoy the fruit of years and years of struggle; then who? That is what Eritrea is all about. Eritrea is ours, you the Moslem and I the Christian to enjoy the beauty of here diversity. Thanks to the Dead and Living Heroes, this land of your and mine is for all for us to use in which ever way we want.
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February, 23 2002 09:45:50 PM
Mike
[B] Incidentally, while we are at it; do all Eritreans know that Ethiopian Moslems are not allowed build a mosque in Aksum? Yes, Ethiopian Moslems are not allowed to build a mosque in Aksum as a policy of Weyane and Amhara. Eritreans think about this and what it means. Do you know the members of the Jihad Eritreans who are now in Tigrai sleeping in Mekele and Gondar are not allow to enter Aksum in any capacity. Think about it. See how far your country has come when it comes to equality, religious and cultural tolerance and respect; Thanks to the farsighted Shaebia leadership. That is to total sum difference between your Eritrea and Ethiopia.
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February, 23 2002 09:27:57 PM
DEMOCRAT
The notion of < < hade libi hade hzbi> > was coined for the sole purpose of prolonging Isayas Afwerki's stay in power. It's an instrument to suppress dissent. The message of the phrase is thaw the line or else you will be considered the enemy of the state and thrown into the dungeon accused of defeatism, collaborating with woyane, instigating revolt and all kinds of trumped up charges. It has nothing to do with unity that Isayas supporters claim it represents because the # enemy of unity is Isayas Afwerki himself. So I suggest the phrase be changed to HADE LIBI HADE WEDINI. It truly represents the state of affair in the country.
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February, 23 2002 09:26:48 PM
DEMOCRAT
The notion of < < hade libi hade hzbi> > was coined for the sole purpose of prolonging Isayas Afwerki's stay in power. It's an instrument to suppress dissent. The message of the phrase is thaw the line or else you will be considered the enemy of the state and thrown into the dungeon accused of defeatism, collaborating with woyane, instigating revolt and all kinds of trumped up charges. It has nothing to do with unity that Isayas supporters claim it represents because the # enemy of unity is Isayas Afwerki himself. So I suggest the parse be changed to HADE LIBI HADE WEDINI. It truly represents the state of affair in the country
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February, 23 2002 08:46:18 PM
DEMOCRAT
Isayas is playing the regional and religious cards to divide Eritreans. It is not going to work. Eritreans are far more sophisticated than Isayas and his cronies give them credit for. The Eritrean people have already identified who their nemesis is. And it is none tother than Isayas Afewerki himself. The noose is tightening around his neck. There is no way out of his predicament. His futile attempt to divide and conquer is faltering at the seems. The graceful thing to do is, as the famous poet Dr. Reesom Haile wrote, TO RESIGN! WERED ATA SEYTAN!
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February, 23 2002 08:31:08 PM
New-Generation-of-Eritrea
Seraye Libration front..is your grand agenda another scheme to devide the people of Eritrea along ethnic lines, if so, you have big time erred. No one , for sure, would buy that. It surprising indeed Eritreans all over have become politicaly conscious that they see things very critically. If not for that, we , Eritreans would have still been in the mountains of Sahel. However, due to keen leadership of the then Eplf and now EPFDJ Eritrea has secured all its territory. In the near future , one more again, and this time ones and for all will have its own territorial integrity secured. This time , however, all that dream of getting Asab will for ever disapear from the minds of all Ethi. Chauvinists. Asab would be by gone. It's rightfull owners, Eritreans, would turn Assab a big naval base from which we keep Eritrea intact for generations to come. History will tell all generations of Eritrea the attrocities commited by Ethiopians and Eritreans being fully aware of their history will never ever consider unity
February, 23 2002 08:29:55 PM
DEMOCRAT
AGME HATER, you are a disgrace to your people. Eritreans hate Isayas not because he is an agame (even though that is true) but rather because he is unfit to lead our country. Please spare us more embarrassment and just go away.
February, 23 2002 08:11:18 PM
Younger Generation of Eritrea
Some Eritrean had better learn from history. History tells us in no uncertain terms that thinking one's society better than the others just brees hatred and regionalism. Arians of Germans thought they were the best race on earth untill the whole wide world laughed at them and searched for the demise of their dangerous thinking. The same is true to israelites and some moslem countries who think them and only them are puritans, and as such they have become intollerance by the days , therefore as a consequence the world see them being victimized by their twisted ideology which is alien to world's peace loving people. Raising similar issue of allienating oneself on the ground that he/she is from a certain region or religion woudn't get him/her anywhere other than being victimized by his/her narrow thinking.........................
February, 23 2002 05:48:59 PM
Mike
[A] Deki Ere, Deki Haras Nebri, yesterday I jotted a note as to how the external and internal enemies of Eritrea used different schemes to "divide and rule" Eritrea. However, someone on this message board reminded me of the new methods, the latest method, that is being employed to divide Errata. Lately, this method has been the method that seems to be pushed and promoted by Weyane and some short-sighted and brain-dead Eritrean, hoping it will work. This method is what is what I call "Ancestral Origin Criterion". Leaving the Weyane operators aside; it is amazing and at times disheartening to read that there are some Eritreans who believe there is "pure Eritrean" blood or as they put it "Zuruiat Eritreans". In short, these people are of the notion and belief that Adam and Eve were and the Garden of Eden were in Eritrea and they are direct decedents of Adam and Eve. It is amazing there are people are in the 21st Century.
February, 23 2002 05:47:55 PM
MIke
[B] There are some that do not go back to "Adam and Eve". Some like Hurui Tedla (the brain dead politician) are liberal, by comparison. These types claim or promote that if you have 1/1000 blood from neighboring country such as Ethiopia, Djibouti, the Sudan, Yemen and Saudi Arabia, then you do not qualify to be "Eritrean". According to people like Hirui Tedla, unless you can show, both on the mother and father side, a 10-generation back; you are rendered non-Eritrean. Stop here and ask your self, did the bible of Weyane; the "Tigrai Manifesto" put it differently from what such people are saying? Not at all, that is exactly what "Tigrai Manifesto" used to claim over 60% of the Eritrean lands and the Eritrean people. Let us pretend and let assume we accept this criterion of "Eritreanism" is correct and this is how we will screen Eritreans. If that is the case, it is incumbent upon us to pick a map of Eritrean and see which people and which land will stay Eritrean. Let us begin.
February, 23 2002 05:46:43 PM
Mike
[C] (1) AFAR AND DENAKIL REGIONS: By virtue of culture and way of life; you can safely assume that the Eritrean Afars has been crossbred with the Djibouti and Ethiopian Afars though centuries of inter-marriage and vise-a-versa. If that is the case and if the theory of this group is to hold true, then good bye Assab and good bye Afar. (2) From Irob Land to Qola Seraie, bordering Tigrai. Conservatively take a 30-km strip (a one-day journey from Tigrai) and see if there were relations with Irob Tigrai, Damo, Agame, Adwa, and Shire. There was and there will through intermarriage. Taking the minimum 300 years back, I am afraid these Eritreans might be rendered non-Eritrea. Please do the same logic and try to interpolate or extrapolate through areas bordering Tekze River and north to Port Sudan. Add the Red Sea area from Zula to Korara to that . Considering that Eritreans have years and years of marriage with Ethiopian, Sudanese, Yemenis, Europeans and now American, will there be any Eritrean left?
February, 23 2002 05:45:33 PM
Mike
[D] If the theory of these people is to hold true, then there is no such thing called "Eritrea" and "Eritreans". Incidentally, that is exactly what "Tigrai Manifesto" used to claim Eritreans. Folks, who are the people who are pushing this theory, the latest mode to divide to Eritrea. Unless that person is a brain dead Eritrean; it could only come from Weyane as one of their latest arsenals used to divide Eritrea. Be that it may, to the agony and dismay of these internal and external enemies; Eritreans, through 30 years of tears and blood, has morphed, fused and amalgamated into "Hade Hizbi and Hade Libi". Besides, through the years; Eritrean is learning and maturing to know the enemy form afar.
February, 23 2002 04:16:01 PM
Mohammed Yassin Ahmado
Thanks to our government my family celebrated Eid in Asmara - in Masjid AL-Khulafa' AL-Rashidin - together with 100,000 fellow moslems. I am glad that Eritrea is a tolerant country, so much so that we moslems were granted the right to build mosques right under DERBRE-BIZEN , the famous centuries old Orthodox Christian monastery.
February, 23 2002 03:03:22 PM
Adhanom Fitwi=Habtom Yohannes?
HABTOM YOHANNES, we know that you are a deranged individual who believes that CHRIST is coming tomorrow. Some even have told me that you have claimed that CHRIST appeared to you in your dream and told you to convert yourself to a a religion of cultists who are opposed to simple things like vaccination and preach everyday that CHRIST is COMING tomorrow. It is in this and other contexts that I find it strange that a DERANGED person like HABTOM YOHANNES who has close ties with AMHARAS and TIGRAYANS attacking genuine Eritreans in the cyber space..
February, 23 2002 02:29:15 PM
JUSTICE
HRUI BARYA'U-VIMBI, MESFIN HAGOS-VIMBI, HAILE-Mariam Wolde-Tinsae-VIMBI,.... all of them are POWER-HUNGRY TRAITOR-vimbi. Oh I forgot one, we have also WaTa-VIMBI(Dr. RISSOM HAILE ayoKum nayna!).
February, 23 2002 12:51:57 PM
gofar tewolde
Am looking to locate our cousin Fshye Meles Tewolde, last known to be in Kentucky, as of 7 years ago. He is about 55 and from Asmara Thanks
February, 23 2002 12:46:55 PM
Wedi-Regbe,Wedi-Kurbaria Tsada(WRWKT)
I have just finished EmbaHara's recent post.Yes,it is indeed getting hilarious when one reads the exchange between Sophia T(Robitosun) Vs. Embaye Melekia(Asprin).The Canadian Journal of Mental Health is conducting a study about the effects of a certain drug.Embaye Melekin is on a CONTROL group and is taking ASPRIN for his Bipolar disorder( A severe mental illness).Other than what researchers call PLACEBO EFFECT,those in the CONTROL group are not treated for their illnesses.Hence,the recent abnormal activities of Embaye Melekia.And,Sophia,Ms.Robitason(Flu Medicine),has shown us her INSATIABLE apetite for 'BELIEVING ABSURDITIES'. Yes,absurdities!! How can she claim that "One hour with PIA is worth a YEAR at ANY UNIVERSITY". What Sophia is telling us is that if PIA allows a group of Eritreans to meet with him,there will be no need for University of Asmara.At that rate,2Hrs with PIA=an Associate Degree,4Hrs with PIA= a Bachelors Degree,6Hrs with PIA=a Masters Degree and so on!! Absurd,and wierd,I say to THAT!!!!
February, 23 2002 12:34:13 PM
hagos
if it is Ok for isayas to start relation ship with ethiopia it should equally be OK for the oppositioin. once the border is demarcated the opposition should be smart and bold enough to declare ethiopia a strategic ally against dictatotr Isayas.
February, 23 2002 11:10:57 AM
Alem
Ephrem Tekle or Ghidewon Abay: Please reveal the IP Addresses of the writers of this discussion group. Concealing their IP Addresses is making it hard to know whom you arguing with. BTW, one can find out from the IP Address who the writer is by going to your MS-DOS Prompt and typing "ping -a 0.0.0.0 - 255.255.255.255(IP Address)".
February, 23 2002 10:32:44 AM
Doba Ruba
HAPPY DEMARCATION
February, 23 2002 10:18:58 AM
Pro-Justice
Since Dehai started concealing the IP addresses of the writers, it is not easy who is really writing on behalf of who. I came to realize that this guy Mike, is the same guy who wrote a response to Dr. Bereket. I figured that Mike is Dr. Michael Asgedetay. I never thought that Mike would have a PhD. Not that PhD is a big deal, but on PFDJ's world when you see the holders of this academic title, it closes your appetite of the urge to get PhD. The reason that I am saying this is that I have seen a number of pro-pfdj writers, who put the PhD title infront of their names, and yet their logical arguments below elementary level. Example of this pro-pfdj Phds are: Dr. Massud Filli, Dr. Mike Asgedetay, Dr. Tsegai Issak, Dr. Gideom A. Asmerom , Dr Embaye Ferrow, Dr. Mussie Misgina are the ones that come to my memory. This PhDs are paid agents of Isayas. I think they are paid to write Isayas' propaganda. It is very sad also that they are prostituting with their academic titles for the sake of their own benefit.
February, 23 2002 04:16:55 AM
To Mike
If any relationship exists on the government level it will be clearly transparent and strictly buisness. We do not wish to pass ethnic hate between groups or neighbors, so that relationship will be determined by the individual, all we ask is transparency and accountability...for all we care you can be a first generation ethio and have equal rights to zserruuiat Eritreans as long as you/we/me abide by the constitution (some things will be revised). but woe to those closet type individuals who decide to play the games they were playing under Afworqe/tplf/haileselase/mengistu/alula!!! you will be deported to ethio if you continue but then you will see how much you are despised by all even by those genealogy wise closer to you! Anywho, Mike I hope you are not one of these closet ethio types, if you are then you are only a bit smarter than Teazabi. Are you a zserruui Eritrean? If so why do you try to cause political rift between pro/anti Afworqe Eritreans? Dont reply with hypocritical Rodney King slogans!!!
February, 23 2002 03:58:51 AM
To Mike
Most often it appears it is those who do not have a firm rooting in Eritrea (closet ethios) who are extreme supporters of Afworqe and many of his negative polocies. Maybe they feel they have to echoe the words of those in power and try to pass themselves as full/dedicated Eritreans and since he is of mixed origin like them they defend him beyond ration. but zserruuite Eritreans from all over Eritrea do not need some closet Ethio to approve of them or disapprove of them, or give them a stamp of eritrean identity when they are more Eritrean than he or his administration. Anywho, zserruiat Eritreans from all regions of Eritrea will take control over Eritrea sooner than later and bring non-violent stability to our people and our neighbors. We will not need to go to war after demarcation if ruling is fair. We will not be buddy, buddy with Melles/tplf/ negative ethios as they wish because we will not forget what they did along with their closet ethio (Afworqe).
February, 23 2002 03:46:43 AM
To Mike
to finish let me say, that from time to time these closet ethios & the negative ethios will try to pit Eritreans against each other but they will not succede because all zserruiat Eritreans from all the regions of Eritrea know our strength is in our unity and infact we will undo any of those that are trying to have a negative impact on us wether it is the closet ethios like Afworqe or the all-out negative ethios like tplf/ negative amhari intellectuals. Also ever since Afworqe and TPLF came into the Eritrean liberation picture there has been a greater cry of "we should not ask where one is from (which region of Eritrea)" it is these closet Ethios that don't like being asked such questions because they are not firmly rooted in any region of Eritrea. No Eritrean had a problem in saying what region of Eritrea one was from before Afworqe/tplf came into the picture, infact we had already learned to respect & admire each others places of origin on our own as zserruuite Eritreans.
February, 23 2002 03:02:39 AM
To Mike
All that aside, Mike hypocrisy (similar to that concerning genealogy) reappears when you forget to mention one of the closet ethios that tried to play the religion and regionalism card on Eritreans but failed like his predecessors, I am talking about Afworqe and his types (closet ethios). What card do you think he and the tplf were trying to play when they called the original eritrean liberation front as AMMA HARADDIT? Or what card was Afworqe (closet ethios) trying to play when he did what he did to the Meneka movement? What card do you think he (closet ethios) was trying to play when he attacked "Eritrean" Jeberties? What card do you think he (closet ethios) is trying to play when he restructured the regional administrations of Eritrea without consulting residents, and done away with our ancestrial communial landownerships and converted it to government ownership for sale to anyone as long as they have the highest bid(actually privatized since it is in the hands of the few closet ethios of the gov).What?
February, 23 2002 02:44:02 AM
To Mike
you talk about how negative ethios are trying to play us against each other, I concur and will do you even better and tell you that there are some meniacs who want us to get a taste of our own medicine (thats what they think in their mind and wish for) but they forget that their types had long before the tplf or afworqe came into existence tried to place such a regionalist system on Eritreans, so it is they who got a taste of their own medicine and in addition the average Eritrean in Eritrea does not and did not want to rule over ethios/ethiopia and the fact we pushed for complete nation hood proves that. If they say what about Afworqe, well is closer related to them and he & the tplf were manipulating eritreans for their own gains, so we (Eritreans) will not pay the price for what closet ethios did to other negative ethios!!! These negative ethios (they are hi-educated)now want to shed crocodile tears or act as the victim when they were egging the tplf to go to war despite the loss to ordinary civilians???
February, 23 2002 02:11:45 AM
To Mike
If all your talks were clear and of pure heart, no one would be bothered when you play the tune of "we are all of mixed origin" for the simple sake of letting all of us (including negative ethios) live in peace, however you betray yourselves and show your hypocrisy when you target other Eritreans on their genealogy. So why did these closet ethio types call others agame/ethio since 98 instead of being clear of their genealogy and trying to be peace makers, deter both sides from going to war??? If they cared for any half of their composition (especially their Eritrean 1/2) they would not have played the deceptive roles. Looking at the war, a closet Ethio (Afworqe's) went to war with an Ethio (TPLF/negative ethios), and at the end of the day Eritreans are hurt more. No wonder these closet ethios & full negative ethios were pushing for war, so they could inflict damage on Eritreans. True Eritreans would have caught the early warning signals before 98, but closet ethios puposefully said all is ok so war happens
February, 23 2002 01:37:14 AM
To Mike
I see that you are one of these complex types by lineage and by political outlook. Just today you wrote this piece on how the negative type ethios are seeking to put eritreans against each other by regionalism. Your piece would have been sincere if the half closet ethio moderators of this message board hadn't erased the replies to Teazabi/Sam/and other characters. I your zserruuii Hamasen brother pointed it out before you and told them zssurriiat Eritreans from all regions of Eritrea wouldn't fall for their tricks (i.e. zerruuiiat zerruuiiat Eritreans kab Akaleguzay, Seraye, Hamasen, Senhit, Samhar, Baraka, & Denakil). Yes there are zserruuiat Eritreans, more than those of mixed origins! However, Afworqe and others like him try to re-write history and tell us we are all of mixed origin and that there is no such thing as a zseruui (pure) Eritrean. They (1/2 Eritreans, the other 1/2 closet ethio/tigrai/amhari) even drew up the basis of classification of an Eritrean constitutionaly to meet their shortcomes
February, 23 2002 12:08:37 AM
DICTIONARY
Someone is testing his vocabulary! Buchananite racist? Ralph NADIR?? Epitomizing Bushism? Tony BLAIR blarney?
February, 22 2002 09:43:46 PM
EmbaHara
I have to admit and confess that I am getting a belly laugh out of the on going exchange at Asmarino.com,between the tendencious numskull Sophia T and the Buchananite racist,the bumpkin Embaye Melekin.In case that can only be described as the spat between Asprin V. Robitusn,the cyber scuffle of these two unbalanced individuals epitomizes what is wrong and what is ailing the Eritrean political discourse.The case of the tendencious numskull Sophia Vs. the bumpkin Embaye Melekia,is a sordid affair that is turning comical and pathetic by the day.The sorry and demented soul,Embaye Melekia is taking Aspirin for the Bipolar disorder that has completely paushing him of being nothing but Abnormal;likewise,the spoiled and the privileged Sophia is telling us what the Eritrean "Rich and Famous" take for their flu!! Can it get more pathetic and insane than this!! And,her stupidity has hit the nadir when she foolishly asserted that " an Hour with PIA is like one year of a University study.". Come on,this is utter blarney!!
February, 22 2002 06:52:39 PM
MIke
[A] Deki Ere, is there anything left that has not been tried and used to divide Eritrea in every which way they can? Since 1940s, we have seen them and we have gone through so many divisive tendencies and practices. Some times, I just wander how in the hell did Eritrea make it thus far to achieve its freedom and independence. It was not easy and at times the divisive practices were painful and costly. If you look back and trace the origin of all the real and imagined divisions and divisive acts and tendencies in Eritrea; all of us agree that the source is Ethiopia or Addis Ababa. What do you expect, as the Amhara put it, "YeAgeru Serdo BeAgeru Ahiya" or "YeAgeru Ahiya BeAgeru Jib". If the Ethiopians are to have what they want and when they want it; what a better way or method there is than to use Eritreans against Eritreans. That was the rule of the game; and that is the rule of the game they are playing it now. They will succeed in their game; if each of us have not learned from the past.
February, 22 2002 06:51:39 PM
Mike
[B] Take it, every conceivable game they could play; they have played it. You name it; they did play it. Breaking the categories they used and tried to use can be looked at like these. The first was to inculcate and bolster religious Intolerance: Moslem verses Christian to the extent of dividing the Christians into Orthodox, Catholics, and Protestants. Let us take simple example how they could divide and promote mistrust between Moslems and Christians. Leaving aside the politically motivated religious games played; do you know that Eritrea and Ethiopia are the only countries in the whole wide world where Moslems consider eating meat butchered by Christians and vise-a-versa as a taboo or sin. There is not religious background either from the Bible or the Koran to that effect and every religious leader, be it Christian or Moslem could attest to that; but the Amhara used and practiced it to their advantage with tangible results to this date. Think about.
February, 22 2002 06:50:29 PM
Mike
[C] Go to Egypt for example, there is not such thing called "Moslem meat" or "Christian meat". Only in Ethiopia folks, only in Ethiopia. Ask your self? Why did Amhara planted and propagated such a poison, especially more in Eritrea? The answer is crystal clear. The second divisive poison is to inculcate and foster regionalism: Hamassien verses Akle; Akele verse Seraie; Hamassien verse Seraie and to top it Highlander verses Lowlander. This chasm (division) was used and promoted by Ethiopia to the minute details. It went even down to using "soccer teams" to widen and to deepen the chasm. Does any one remember when people used to chant: "Hama Gessima", "Akele KeM Gele" and "Raza Kem Waza" at football stadiums every Sunday in Asmara? I do remember. Alas, the people were not chanting in support of their favorite sports team but without them aware of it, they were bolstering the "divide and rule" game played by Ethiopians.
February, 22 2002 06:49:15 PM
Mike
[C] Go to Egypt for example, there is not such thing called "Moslem meat" or "Christian meat". Only in Ethiopia folks, only in Ethiopia. Ask your self?
February, 22 2002 06:48:18 PM
Mike
[D} The third and the latter mode, which still seems to linger, is difference in political views: ELF verse EPLF. This division operated until ELF crushed under its weight. Even today, Ethiopia is capitalizing on these given that there are some individuals who are ready to sell their soul to make a living out of Eritrean misery. These and much more can be sited and learn form. Each of these division schemes was used effectively by the enemy scoring tangible results. The question is, is Weyane using differently than what was used and tried before. No, by all means no. Weyane is repeating the same tried and proven and methods; thanks to some Eritreans who have not learned from the past. As they say, it is very hard to teach an old dog new trick. I am afraid will be see some of these old dogs around us for sometime to come.
February, 22 2002 06:47:22 PM
Mike
[E] If it is of any reconciliation, the number of such type of Eritrean who suffer from the 50s, 60s, and 70s backward mentalities and tendencies are getting smaller by the day. Thanks to the farsighted Shaebia leadership; such elements are not having their way as the day goes by. These elements are being left behind while Eritrea is building from its past mistakes and experience. Perhaps the greatest achievement of Shaebia can be stated that it strives for "united of secular Eritrea" above and beyond any national priority. Be that it may, the nation is maturing, the nation is learning, and the nation is experiencing to strive for "Hadi Hizbi Hade Libi." However, make no mistake about the Ethiopia/Weyane is not sleeping. What make the enemy dangerous he does not only spend a fortune to practices it and have a divided Eritrea; the enemy effectively is using disgruntled, disillusioned and detached Eritreans to do his dirty job.
February, 22 2002 05:14:17 PM
no-mad
How stupid is the European Parlament? -Stupid enough to announce to the world Eritrea should 'reconcile' with a cyber political party of less than a month, with NO program & UKNOWN members!!...or else 'no aid' bla bla bla
February, 22 2002 04:39:24 PM
MEDHANIE
During
the timeof ELF EPLF civil war i ask one of my ELF comanders why are we loosing to EPLF? His answer was they know about u
s more than we know ourselves.The rifrafs are playing the same dinial game talking trash about EPLF they never look their ima
ge at the mirror my be it is not appealing.
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February, 22 2002 02:07:26 PM
semere
The NGOs who work
inside eritrea are disapointed whith the EU saying. That is the reality the noise from deformers is nothing self centered li
ers the GOE is working hard to help the eritrean people.Why are reffuges who lived for 30 years are coming back to eritrea i g
uess eritrea is no a hell as the deformed mesfun and co are telling
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February, 22 2002 03:21:14 AM
Proud Eritrean!
Selamawit I guess you just answered my Q about the DNA test. :-) no further Q :-) what ppl
say tells alot about them. So keep it up, you are doing a very good job. :-) you are answering many of our Qs without knowing
it. :-) no need for DNA test you saved us time, for now, but if you want to be Eritrean? first you need to know what it takes
to be one. :-)
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February, 22 2002 01:14:43 AM
Tserona
Hi my dear Eritreans, the agames and the Traitors are trying thier best to divide . please i
gnor them and lets focas on our reconstruction.
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February, 21 2002 10:19:26 PM
Worede
The best policy t
hat shaebia has come up with is the renaming of administrative zones in Eritrea. In an effort to remove the anti unity regiona
list sentiment, new new zobas such as zoba maekel, zoba debub and so forth are created.
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February, 21 2002 07:15:22 PM
Mike
[A} Ethiopian, if I am to judge the way you put your questions; you are of the belief and understandin
g that the whole Ethiopia; which includes Oromia, Sidama, Afar, Somalia and Beshangul belong to the Amhara. That is what I ca
n deduce or infer from your line of question. Ideally, Ethiopia should belong to all Ethiopians and just to the Abyssinians wh
o think and act so. How could a minority (Amhara) claim Ethiopia is there for their purposes and their stomach? Ethiopia sho
uld belong to all, with guaranteed rights and privileges of each Ethiopian. This shall include the "right" and the privilege
to rule or lead to Ethiopia. However, you and I know that the book of "Kibre Negist", which is the book of the Ethiopian Orth
odox Church, does not believe and does not allow practicing that. Unless something gives,as long as the Abyssinians continue
to see the rest of Ethiopians as commodity to use and dispense as they please, the notion of Ethiopia belonging to the Amhara
will continue and as a result there will
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February, 21 2002 07:14:22 PM
Mike
[B} Ethiopian let me ask you a question. Are Amhara/Tigrai ready to accept an Oromo and a Moslem Orom
o or Somali leader as such? Not according to the book of "Kibre Negist" and not according to the Abyssinians; if they could h
elp. Incidentally; if there ever be a "democratic Ethiopia", it will come after all the books of "Kibre Negist" are collected
from Ethiopian Orthodox Church and burned. All the "evil" of the Abyssinians starts from the book of "Kibre Negist". Burning
the book of "Kibre Negist" should be the first order of business for the Ethiopians; if they are to live in equality and digni
ty. As to your question relative to Eritrea: There is no such a thing called to belonging to "Tigrigna" speaking highlander.
In Eritrea, there is one thing that belongs to all Eritrea. That is Eritrea, in which every Eritrean ethnic and practically e
very Eritrean family has paid for it to say, "Eritrean is mine or ours".