From: Tsegai Emmanuel (email@example.com)
Date: Tue Jan 27 2009 - 07:37:51 EST
*January 26, 2009*
Obama on Al Arabiya
*My story* <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/18016.html>:
President Barack Obama presented a humble and conciliatory face of America
to the Islamic world Monday in the first formal interview since he assumed
office, stressing his own Muslim ties and shying away from any hint of
belligerence even when asked if he could "live with" an Iranian nuclear
The interview with the Dubai-based Al-Arabiya Network was a dramatic piece
of public diplomacy aimed at capitalizing on the new American president's
"I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim countries,"
Obama said, according to a White House transcript. "My job to the Muslim
world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy."
Obama's dramatic shift Monday was one of tone, not of policy, and he also
affirmed America's support for Israel.
"Israel is a strong ally of the United States. They will not stop being a
strong ally of the United States. And I will continue to believe that
Israel's security is paramount," he said. "But I also believe that there are
Israelis who recognize that it is important to achieve peace. They will be
willing to make sacrifices if the time is appropriate and if there is
serious partnership on the other side."
The Al Arabiya interview, directed squarely at Muslims around the world,
revived a vision of personal, symbolic international change that was in the
air when Obama – with his far-flung family members, and complicated story –
launched his campaign. It was a vision, and an aspect of his story, that the
candidate buried when, in 2007, was forced to combat whispering campaigns
about his own faith.
But by giving his first interview to the Arabic network, Obama signaled his
continuing belief in his personal power as a symbol of America against the
temptations of Islamic militancy. He even dismissed "bankrupt" ideas and
policies that don't improve children's health care, jabbing at "nervous" Al
Qaeda leaders in language that echoed his campaign against George W. Bush.
Full transcript after the jump.
Internal Transcript January 26, 2009
ITERVIEW OF THE PRESIDENT
HISHAM MELHEM, AL ARABIYA
5:46 P.M. EST
Q Mr. President, thank you for this opportunity, we really appreciate it.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you so much.
Q Sir, you just met with your personal envoy to theMiddle East, Senator
Mitchell. Obviously, his first task is to consolidate the cease-fire. But
beyond that you've been saying that you want to pursue actively and
aggressively peacemaking between the Palestinians and the Israelis. Tell us
a little bit about how do you see your personal role, because, you know, if
the President of the United States is not involved, nothing happens -- as
the history of peacemaking shows. Will you be proposing ideas, pitching
proposals, parameters, as one of your predecessors did? Or just urging the
parties to come up with their own resolutions, as your immediate predecessor
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think the most important thing is for the United
States to get engaged right away. And George Mitchell is somebody of
enormous stature. He is one of the few people who have international
experience brokering peace deals.
And so what I told him is start by listening, because all too often the
United States starts by dictating -- in the past on some of these issues --
and we don't always know all the factors that are involved. So let's listen.
He's going to be speaking to all the major parties involved. And he will
then report back to me. From there we will formulate a specific response.
Ultimately, we cannot tell either the Israelis or the Palestinians what's
best for them. They're going to have to make some decisions. But I do
believe that the moment is ripe for both sides to realize that the path that
they are on is one that is not going to result in prosperity and security
for their people. And that instead, it's time to return to the negotiating
And it's going to be difficult, it's going to take time. I don't want to
prejudge many of these issues, and I want to make sure that expectations are
not raised so that we think that this is going to be resolved in a few
months. But if we start the steady progress on these issues, I'm absolutely
confident that the United States -- working in tandem with the European
Union, with Russia, with all the Arab states in the region -- I'm absolutely
certain that we can make significant progress.
Q You've been saying essentially that we should not look at these issues --
like the Palestinian-Israeli track and separation from the border region --
you've been talking about a kind of holistic approach to the region. Are we
expecting a different paradigm in the sense that in the past one of the
critiques -- at least from the Arab side, the Muslim side -- is that
everything the Americans always tested with the Israelis, if it works. Now
there is an Arab peace plan, there is a regional aspect to it. And you've
indicated that. Would there be any shift, a paradigm shift?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, here's what I think is important. Look at the proposal
that was put forth by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia --
THE PRESIDENT: I might not agree with every aspect of the proposal, but it
took great courage --
THE PRESIDENT: -- to put forward something that is as significant as that. I
think that there are ideas across the region of how we might pursue peace.
I do think that it is impossible for us to think only in terms of the
Palestinian-Israeli conflict and not think in terms of what's happening with
Syria or Iran or Lebanon or Afghanistan and Pakistan. These things are
interrelated. And what I've said, and I think Hillary Clinton has expressed
this in her confirmation, is that if we are looking at the region as a whole
and communicating a message to the Arab world and the Muslim world, that we
are ready to initiate a new partnership based on mutual respect and mutual
interest, then I think that we can make significant progress.
Now, Israel is a strong ally of the United States. They will not stop being
a strong ally of the United States. And I will continue to believe that
Israel's security is paramount. But I also believe that there are Israelis
who recognize that it is important to achieve peace. They will be willing to
make sacrifices if the time is appropriate and if there is serious
partnership on the other side.
And so what we want to do is to listen, set aside some of the preconceptions
that have existed and have built up over the last several years. And I think
if we do that, then there's a possibility at least of achieving some
Q I want to ask you about the broader Muslim world, but let me -- one final
thing about the Palestinian-Israeli theater. There are many Palestinians and
Israelis who are very frustrated now with the current conditions and they
are losing hope, they are disillusioned, and they believe that time is
running out on the two-state solution because -- mainly because of the
settlement activities in Palestinian-occupied territories. Will it still be
possible to see a Palestinian state -- and you know the contours of it --
within the first Obama administration?
THE PRESIDENT: I think it is possible for us to see a Palestinian state --
I'm not going to put a time frame on it -- that is contiguous, that allows
freedom of movement for its people, that allows for trade with other
countries, that allows the creation of businesses and commerce so that
people have a better life.
And, look, I think anybody who has studied the region recognizes that the
situation for the ordinary Palestinian in many cases has not improved. And
the bottom line in all these talks and all these conversations is, is a
child in the Palestinian Territories going to be better off? Do they have a
future for themselves? And is the child in Israel going to feel confident
about his or her safety and security? And if we can keep our focus on making
their lives better and look forward, and not simply think about all the
conflicts and tragedies of the past, then I think that we have an
opportunity to make real progress.
But it is not going to be easy, and that's why we've got George Mitchell
going there. This is somebody with extraordinary patience as well as
extraordinary skill, and that's what's going to be necessary.
Q Absolutely. Let me take a broader look at the whole region. You are
planning to address the Muslim world in your first 100 days from a Muslim
capital. And everybody is speculating about the capital. (Laughter.) If you
have anything further, that would be great.
How concerned are you -- because, let me tell you, honestly, when I see
certain things about America -- in some parts, I don't want to exaggerate --
there is a demonization of America.
THE PRESIDENT: Absolutely.
Q It's become like a new religion, and like a new religion it has new
converts -- like a new religion has its own high priests.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.
Q It's only a religious text.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.
Q And in the last -- since 9/11 and because of Iraq, that alienation is
wider between the Americans and -- and in generations past, the United
States was held high. It was the only Western power with no colonial legacy.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.
Q How concerned are you and -- because people sense that you have a
different political discourse. And I think, judging by (inaudible) and
Zawahiri and Osama bin Laden and all these, you know -- a chorus --
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I noticed this. They seem nervous.
Q They seem very nervous, exactly. Now, tell me why they should be more
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think that when you look at the rhetoric that they've
been using against me before I even took office --
Q I know, I know.
THE PRESIDENT: -- what that tells me is that their ideas are bankrupt.
There's no actions that they've taken that say a child in the Muslim world
is getting a better education because of them, or has better health care
because of them.
In my inauguration speech, I spoke about: You will be judged on what you've
built, not what you've destroyed. And what they've been doing is destroying
things. And over time, I think the Muslim world has recognized that that
path is leading no place, except more death and destruction.
Now, my job is to communicate the fact that the United States has a stake in
the well-being of the Muslim world, that the language we use has to be a
language of respect. I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in
Q The largest one.
THE PRESIDENT: The largest one, Indonesia. And so what I want to communicate
is the fact that in all my travels throughout the Muslim world, what I've
come to understand is that regardless of your faith -- and America is a
country of Muslims, Jews, Christians, non-believers -- regardless of your
faith, people all have certain common hopes and common dreams.
And my job is to communicate to the American people that the Muslim world is
filled with extraordinary people who simply want to live their lives and see
their children live better lives. My job to the Muslim world is to
communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make
mistakes. We have not been perfect. But if you look at the track record, as
you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect
and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or
30 years ago, there's no reason why we can't restore that. And that I think
is going to be an important task.
But ultimately, people are going to judge me not by my words but by my
actions and my administration's actions. And I think that what you will see
over the next several years is that I'm not going to agree with everything
that some Muslim leader may say, or what's on a television station in the
Arab world -- but I think that what you'll see is somebody who is listening,
who is respectful, and who is trying to promote the interests not just of
the United States, but also ordinary people who right now are suffering from
poverty and a lack of opportunity. I want to make sure that I'm speaking to
them, as well.
Q Tell me, time is running out, any decision on from where you will be
visiting the Muslim world?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I'm not going to break the news right here.
THE PRESIDENT: But maybe next time. But it is something that is going to be
important. I want people to recognize, though, that we are going to be
making a series of initiatives. Sending George Mitchell to the Middle East
is fulfilling my campaign promise that we're not going to wait until the end
of my administration to deal with Palestinian and Israeli peace, we're going
to start now. It may take a long time to do, but we're going to do it now.
We're going to follow through on our commitment for me to address the Muslim
world from a Muslim capital. We are going to follow through on many of my
commitments to do a more effective job of reaching out, listening, as well
as speaking to the Muslim world.
And you're going to see me following through with dealing with a drawdown of
troops in Iraq, so that Iraqis can start taking more responsibility. And
finally, I think you've already seen a commitment, in terms of closing
Guantanamo, and making clear that even as we are decisive in going after
terrorist organizations that would kill innocent civilians, that we're going
to do so on our terms, and we're going to do so respecting the rule of law
that I think makes America great.
Q President Bush framed the war on terror conceptually in a way that was
very broad, "war on terror," and used sometimes certain terminology that the
many people -- Islamic fascism. You've always framed it in a different way,
specifically against one group called al Qaeda and their collaborators. And
is this one way of --
THE PRESIDENT: I think that you're making a very important point. And that
is that the language we use matters. And what we need to understand is, is
that there are extremist organizations -- whether Muslim or any other faith
in the past -- that will use faith as a justification for violence. We
cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence
that is done in that faith's name.
And so you will I think see our administration be very clear in
distinguishing between organizations like al Qaeda -- that espouse violence,
espouse terror and act on it -- and people who may disagree with my
administration and certain actions, or may have a particular viewpoint in
terms of how their countries should develop. We can have legitimate
disagreements but still be respectful. I cannot respect terrorist
organizations that would kill innocent civilians and we will hunt them down.
But to the broader Muslim world what we are going to be offering is a hand
Q Can I end with a question on Iran and Iraq then quickly?
THE PRESIDENT: It's up to the team --
MR. GIBBS: You have 30 seconds. (Laughter.)
Q Will the United States ever live with a nuclear Iran? And if not, how far
are you going in the direction of preventing it?
THE PRESIDENT: You know, I said during the campaign that it is very
important for us to make sure that we are using all the tools of U.S. power,
including diplomacy, in our relationship with Iran.
Now, the Iranian people are a great people, and Persian civilization is a
great civilization. Iran has acted in ways that's not conducive to peace and
prosperity in the region: their threats against Israel; their pursuit of a
nuclear weapon which could potentially set off an arms race in the region
that would make everybody less safe; their support of terrorist
organizations in the past -- none of these things have been helpful.
But I do think that it is important for us to be willing to talk to Iran, to
express very clearly where our differences are, but where there are
potential avenues for progress. And we will over the next several months be
laying out our general framework and approach. And as I said during my
inauguration speech, if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their
fist, they will find an extended hand from us.
Q Shall we leave Iraq next interview, or just --
MR. GIBBS: Yes, let's -- we're past, and I got to get him back to dinner
with his wife.
Q Sir, I really appreciate it.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you so much.
Q Thanks a lot.
THE PRESIDENT: I appreciate it.
Q Thank you.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.
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